Good description Wally, Most make whooping sounds of high pitched opera singers! (scary to any wilderness bear) We find few in our group that go for total emersion, but most usually use the wade and splash technique. I personally think it's how much insulation you have, me?, I have enough for about 5-6 minutes. JA, take your swimming suit!

Posted by Kevin Nash/Ks Paddler on March 21, 2001 at 14:25