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Posted by: pghportager Posted on: Jan 31st, 2008 at 3:09am
Jimbo, We went to WCPP last year and it was great. We saw a group on our first day and last night close to the EPs, but other than that (and a caribou) it was solitude.
We used the park planning map for a bird's eye view, and the topos for navigating. We copied the portages from the planning map to the topos, and copied additional portages, campsites and fishing info from the Goldseekers maps.
The portages are relatively short and well maintained considering the lack of use (mucky, but relatively clear of blowdown and deadfall). In the burned out areas, you will learn to love the rock cairns/inukshuks for finding your way.
As said by others, the lakes are typically split - either lakers or walleye - but there are some with both. Also lots of pike, no bass that we saw (some along the very south end) and we ran into Musky where we didn't think we would (very blue-ish in color too).
the road into leanno lake is long and slow in places. watch out for pink tape on the top of sticks - markers for major holes, ruts and wash outs ahead.
I'd be happy to share our route details, we did a nice loop and covered some good ground. Just PM me. I haven't been on here much for the last year as we went to WCPP and not the Q last year, but it's time to start planning this year's Q trip so I'll be re-upping my inukshuk contribution and checking back regularly.
Posted by: NC_paddler - Ex Member Posted on: Oct 7th, 2007 at 1:25am
your right. The park sells a "trail map", which is the ONLY map that has the portages. There are no equivalents to the Fisher or McKenzie maps that your probably looking for.
You can then buy the topo's from the Gov. or other sites. I bought the etopo CD from this website. I then print the maps I need, transfer the portages to the topo's, and then waterproof them myself. I just use a little kylon spray paint. I carry several sets, since I'm not a very good water proofer.
Hope this helps. Its more difficult that the BWCA, but its well worth the effort.
Posted by: Jimbo Posted on: Oct 6th, 2007 at 11:51pm
NC_Paddler,
I suspect the $12 map is the "overall" park map that I bought a couple years ago at that price & not the sectional navigational/canoe route maps that I'm seeking. I certainly could be wrong about that since I haven't called the park office yet. Sounds like you've been there, done that, so I appreciate the contact info & I'll check out the source.
I spoke directly to the WCPP Supt at the past two CanoeCopias & asked him about "canoe routing maps". He shook his head & pointed me over to Albert's booth (ie. Goldseekers). He told me the outfitters were the best source. From that, I inferred (at least at that time) that he & the park weren't selling the canoe route maps. He DID give me a great freebie book providing some "general" routes & campsites and a good list of fish species by lake.
Yes, I've heard some horror stories about those roads. I'm still evaluating the various EP's & various means of accessing them. One option we're talking about is splitting the party, starting on both the East & West sides of the park, meeting in the middle & switching vehicle keys. Anyway, the trip is not a definite at this point... just one of a couple strong trip possibilities.
I couldn't agree more about filing that trip plan!
Thanks for the leads!
Jimbo
Posted by: NC_paddler - Ex Member Posted on: Oct 6th, 2007 at 8:56pm
Leano on the east side is the most popular entry (you still never see anyone, since it is so remote). The logging road (50 miles to Leano) has been bad in the past. It is VERY important to call the park office if your going in on the east side, and find out what that road looks like.
It is not like the BWCA/ Quetico, and your not likely to see anyone, especially on the western side, and during the spring and fall. Leave a good trip plan with your best friend, before you leave. They get about 700 visitors a year, and its a big park. The BWCA gets that many at a single entry point, by the end of June.
The Gammon and Bloodvein rivers/ interconnecting lakes all have walleye. Pike are throughout. Lake trout in all the big lakes. No smallies in WCPP. Muskie only in Irregular lake in the SW corner. The office has a nice sheet with known species by lake.
Posted by: NC_paddler - Ex Member Posted on: Oct 6th, 2007 at 8:44pm
The Bloodvein River system flows out of Lake Winnipeg and eventually to Hudson Bay - so you can have the best of both worlds - Current and wind at your back.
Also, as a side, these are different lakes than Q/BW. Most are shallower but much colder and walleye can be few and far between. NP and LT abound but I don't remember a single SM when we were there early 90's. I'd give you my maps Jimbo but they were consumed by the Phantom Phire of 2003. We were in the southern part of the park so I can't speak to the northern 2/3rds of it. If I recall, we put in on Leano Lake headed west to . . . can't remember. It was a 14 day trip - just about equal to the amount of time it took us to get there from Red Lake ONT. That road was no more than a wide portage.
Posted by: Jimbo Posted on: Sep 25th, 2007 at 9:07pm
Way ahead of you on that one but keep the tips a-flowin'. You're right, I did find some map info there.
Magic,
Yeah, this trip will be a 10-12 day deal (or more) for sure. Heck, maybe I'll make it a 14 day trip, let the Bloodvein push me west for seven days, then find some dead water futher south & let the breeze blow me back east for seven days. Maybe I should do it solo, like KF (a.k.a. "Mr. Wanderlust")?
Yeah, that's the ticket! I can see my next story title even now... "The Adventures of Mr. WanderLOST in Woodland Caribou Park".
I still haven't ruled out Quetico for '08. Lots of lakes there I still want to visit. So many lakes, so little time....
Jimbo
Posted by: Mad_Mat Posted on: Sep 25th, 2007 at 1:06pm
Jimbo, you may want to do some research on the My CCR forums - there was one forum dedicated to a 3 or 4 week trip some people took there (something like "The Warners's Woodland Caribou tTrip" or something alond those lines - there may be some route info in the Routes section also, and in the Ontario forum - could be some interesting tidbits of info in there.
Posted by: Magicpaddler Posted on: Sep 25th, 2007 at 11:56am
It does sound intriguing. Have the wind at your back or go with the flow. I could do either. I have been looking at my work schedule for next year and it is not the best. The times when I could take a week + of vacation is spotty. Have you set any time for the trip yet? MagicPaddler