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Posted by: Magicpaddler
Posted on: Aug 30th, 2011 at 5:26pm
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Preacher
The clips are faster to use than bungies but they take more setup time before the trip. On one of my canoes it is so fast that I snap the double blade in the clip while I fight a fish. The clips don’t secure the paddle as tight. If you drop the canoe the paddle might pop out.
MagicPaddler
Posted by: Preacher
Posted on: Aug 30th, 2011 at 12:58pm
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While portaging I like to have mine secured in the canoe.  Hands free rules.
While paddling I like to have mine handy & available.  Available to grab without any obstruction.

I keep meaning to get the bungie dealie-bobs for fast/easy securing.
Posted by: Paddle_Guy
Posted on: Aug 29th, 2011 at 8:28pm
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I use similar clips, but save a bit of money.  Those same clips can be found at hardware stores for holding brooms, but usually they are all metal.  I just dip them in that liquid rubber and it makes them perfect for holding my paddles.
Posted by: Magicpaddler
Posted on: Aug 28th, 2011 at 1:10am
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I have had them on several canoes and never had a clip come off I was not trying to get it off.  Some one els was using my canoe and they pulled one of the bungiedelebob off the floor. They were almost picking up the canoe by the bungee when it let go.  The wood is not painted on the bottom and I always clean the boat with denatured alcohol or acetone before gluing something to it.
Posted by: mastertangler
Posted on: Aug 27th, 2011 at 8:26pm
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Actually attaching the clips to the wood I'm OK with. It is rather the glueing the wood base plate to the hull I wonder about. Yours look as if they have been on for some time but I can't help but wonder if they have ever popped off.

(hence my suggestion to drill a few holes in the wood to allow some of the glue to "overlap" onto the outside surface thus creating a "clamp" of sorts similar to a rivet in concept)

I guess it is a moot point though if you have had good luck with it staying on.
Posted by: Magicpaddler
Posted on: Aug 27th, 2011 at 8:19pm
Wood screws coming out of the wood
I was afraid that might happen but it never has.  The wood is only ¼ inch and the short wood screws put some of the unthreaded shaft into the wood so there is less than ¼ inch to hold.  I run the wood screws through the wood with the points sticking out.  Then take it to the belt sander and take the points off until they are flush with the wood.  If they get hot they will burn the wood and then there is nothing for the threads to hold on to.  If that happens I throw the scrap of wood away and keep the shortened screw for the next piece. I usually take the screw back out put some glue on the threads and put it back in.  I like your idea of putting glue between the clip and the wood.
Mounting a straight shaft.
Put the clips on the paddle and hold it up against the side of the canoe.  Slide it around until you find a place where only the clips are touching the side of the canoe.  Mark that spot and glue the clips in.
The Bungidelebob in the bottom of the canoe runs through a plastic eye fastened down the same way as the clips. My empty 1 gallon water jug travels there.  Tie it down when I pack in the morning and remember to take it out at the last portage of the day.
MagicPaddler
Posted by: mastertangler
Posted on: Aug 27th, 2011 at 7:26pm
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Always thinking........
Have you had any problems with the clip coming off MP? I know the Goop has some flexibility so it may not be an issue. I think I would drill some holes through the wood base plate to allow some of the glue to seep through. The effect would be similar to a rivet. Just a thought......

I suppose the bent shaft stores nicely in the taper of the boat. A straight shaft might have "issues". Perhaps a thicker block of wood to allow for the lack of angle (of the paddle) at one end?

If I pursue some WW paddling ease of access would play an important role on where that spare paddle is placed. Get a paddle wrenched out of your hands or broken and it would be crucial to be able to snatch another. Perhaps you WW guys could shed some light. I know what I want but I'm not sure how to get there just yet.

Posted by: mastertangler
Posted on: Aug 27th, 2011 at 6:20pm
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Dadman wrote on Aug 26th, 2011 at 7:28pm:
Thanks for the info. I appreciate your efforts to improve my/our experience.

Dadman


I appreciate the compliment Dadman but I think MP is showing us how it's really done. I like his system better and will likely copy it. Thanks MP.   Cool
Posted by: Magicpaddler
Posted on: Aug 27th, 2011 at 5:02pm
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I hate having things in my hands while portaging.  My hands are for grabbing a tree to keep me from falling.
I like the little clip it would be fast to store and retrieve your paddle.  It would be especially good for a rental canoe.  Nothing to mount. I use a similar clip to store my paddles.  My spare bent shaft fits just below the gunnel in the back and does not get in the way while loading or unloading packs. Just sto it and forget it.
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To mount the clip on the side of the canoe I mount it on a piece of ¼ inch ply wood with shortened wood screws and then glue the ply wood to the side of the canoe. The glue I use is Goop either plumbers or marine. If you want to remove it grab it with pliers and pull out while slipping a narrow, thin sharp putty knife under it. Then scrub the glue off with scotch bright.
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For my double paddle a clip mounted with a hose clamp on each thwart makes it easy to get in and out.
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The clips are either Harmony/$10 per set or Beckson/$5 per set.  Duckworks also has some folding clips.
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MagicPaddler
Posted by: Dadman
Posted on: Aug 26th, 2011 at 7:28pm
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Thanks for the info. I appreciate your efforts to improve my/our experience.

Dadman
 
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