Good information. glad Harlan posted it. My dog Bernice loves boat tows. I love that area too. I may plan my trip around this option.

Not spam imho.  Interested to know of a more affordable than float plane option - or I assume more affordable.  Guessing like Crane Lake to LLC - which is still pricey for my budget.

Good thinking Harlan.  I hope you do well with it.

I don't post here often, but I have been to WCPP on four different trips, on four different years and now have a 2014 trip planned as well. Even at that, I am still not a 'seasoned' park user, and listen closely to the ground for any new information that could be useful to me in future years. When I saw this info posted by Harlan on another board, it was music to my ears, not the crappy feeling that I get from pop-ups or other blatant advertisement. Spam filtering is great when it is really needed, but I don't consider this to be one of those times. I said it before, but thanks again to Harlan for keeping us informed. And Joe, please don't stop patrolling because of this. Some patrolling does need to be done.

The debate is healthy and, as I am not the Mod on this forum, the decision won't be mine.

As a big fan of WCPP, this IS "information" that I want to know, so I would be disappointed if we decided to remove it.  I'm inclined to believe that Doug, the Mod (& park superintendent) will likely see it the same way.

ST also makes a good point re: Harlan's past contributions & history, both with the park & on this site.  Knowledge of this relationship DOES impact one's perspective, in my opinion.

Having said all this, I would suggest to everybody that we are a healthier website when we can have this kind of debate.  I welcome the discussion.

Jimbo   

I think Solotrips post is in the right spot and considering his history here, I have no objection to a little self promotion for his business co-mixed with info anyone could use regardless of if you use his services or not.

He's never made any attempt to hide his business interests and his volunteer work speaks for itself.

His work to clear trails and improve info on park helps self guided/equiped paddlers too.

Seems a win-win situation but I can respect others might not see it that way?

I'd say this is where the keepers of the gate, the Moderator(s) have the final say.

I have to agree with MT.  Harlan isn't just another outfitter promoting himself.  First, he is no stranger to this site who, in his first post, tries to sell us Ginsu knives. Many on this site know him personally. He is, himself, an enthusiastic paddler who has done a great deal to promote  WCPP and make it accessible to many others.  His post does promote his business, it's true, but it is also real information for anyone who uses the park or is considering doing so.
To be honest, Joe, I find your objections mean spirited and  out of context. 

I see the post as information and not spam.  YB's definition of spam is the garbage which shows up when I click on an interesting news headline.  Google need not define QJ.

-YB

Joe
First off, Harlan is just not "every outfitter". Not only does he provide a service directed primarily to the paddling community he also is involved directly in maintaining the park and has spent much time clearing trail.

He is not to be castigated and denounced but rather applauded. Are we so shortsighted and inflexible that we cannot allow a win-win?

And what about it? Who is accurate? Does the boat deposit one to an otherwise time consuming entry point as per Harlans information (the canoe racks are for?) or should we believe schmo's contention that he is advertising........advertising what Joe? Is he trying to sell the boat?

OK.......I'm starting to get irritated the more I think about it so I had better bugger off before I say what I really think.

Joe, I think you are off base. Not sure where you are coming from with all this but appreciate your opinion.

The post is indeed about people knowing there is another option for access to the park now, one that wasn't available previously.  I am sorry that you don't see that.

I am also sorry that you don't see this offers up an opportunity for all paddlers to explore new route options and an open forum that's specifically for this park is indeed the correct place to let people know about it.

Again, not are why you are Taking this so personally to attack me on 2 different sites.

Here is Google's definition of spam:

irrelevant or unsolicited messages sent over the Internet, typically to large numbers of users, for the purposes of advertising, phishing, spreading malware, etc.

Your post is clearly unsolicited and for the purpose of advertising. It was also posted to multiple newsgroups (an identical message was posted on (You need to Login or Register to view media files and links)'s forums). Your topic title was also intentionally misleading, since it has nothing to do with a new access point to WCPP (but perhaps "Red Lake Outfitters buys new boat" would have sucked in fewer readers.)

Websites such as QJ and CCR would cease to function if every outfitter in Canada started posting unsolicited ads announcing every new piece of equipment they bought: every new boat, every new motor, every new fishing rod, every new canoe paddle. Fortunately most newsgroup participants who might have a financial axe to grind are careful to ensure that their postings do not include any hint of promotion of their own commercial interests, save for occasionally including the name of their company in their footer. 

Your post is blatant spam.