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[quote author=Joe_Schmeaux link=1397756183/22#22 date=1399837084]Anyone can save a permanent record of the average ratings for each campsite in pcd by downloading the oziexplorer file. There is one file for inuks and one for non-inuks, and you only get the average rating for each campsite, not the individual ratings or the text comments, but maybe that's good enough.

If you don't want to use Oziexplorer or Memory-Map, the Oziexplorer file data can also be read in in Excel. Go to "Data" - "From Text" - (select the Oziexplorer file) - select "delimited"and check the "comma" box, then import the data into a new worksheet, making sure the data type of column B is "text".

Azalea's help file tells you what each column refers to. The only one that's a bit of a nuisance is the one ending up in "column K" in the Excel sheet. If you want to parse that column into something a bit cleaner, you can create six new columns, with the following formulas:

Column K: Already contains a string like this:    ?:?:Namakan River    :-m---
Columns V through Z should be blank, so enter the following formulas into line 5 and copy them to the other rows in the sheet:
Column V: =TRIM(LEFT(K5,FIND(":",K5,1)-1))
Column W: =MID(K5,LEN(LEFT(K5,FIND(":",K5,1)-1))+2,100)
Column X: =LEFT(W5,FIND(":",W5,1)-1)
Column Y:=MID(W5,LEN(X5)+2,100)
Column Z: =LEFT(Y5,FIND(":",Y5,1)-1)
Column AA: =MID(Y5,LEN(Z5)+2,100)

Columns W and Y can be hidden; Columns V, X, Z and AA contain the average rating, number of tent pads, lake name, and original data source for each site respectively.

I won't promise anything, but this should work with free spreadsheet programs like Open Office if you don't have Excel.
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Posted by: solotripper Posted on: Jun 2^nd, 2022 at 12:40pm	Quote
db wrote on Jun 1^st, 2022 at 9:22pm: My kid says I don't do sarcasm very well and my wife agrees. Eh, whatever. Two stock-holding members of Congress walk into a heavy metal bar. You’d think the second one would’ve ducked. (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links)

Posted by: db Posted on: Jun 1^st, 2022 at 9:22pm	Quote
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Posted by: chaga Posted on: May 27^th, 2015 at 8:12pm	Quote
Thanks, Ben. I just saw nothing concerning the pcd on the homepage. Not a problem, I will register and see what happens.

Posted by: bstrege
Posted on: May 27^th, 2015 at 5:52pm

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me wrote on May 27^th, 2015 at 5:16pm:

Question. I commented on a "campsite" today. What do you do with comments from unregistered visitors? Just kinda curious is all (plus I'm still testing stuff out Wink

~db).

Depends on if it is a "rating" or if someone is just letting me know a site does/does not exist. If it is to let me know about a map correction such as changing a campsite status, I fix it as long as the source seems credible and doesn't contradict what others have said.

For ratings or other comments, traditionally I haven't done anything with them. I've considered creating an "anonymous" identity that I could use to post them. I haven't yet, though, since I have not received many and I would like the contributor to have the ultimate ability to change/delete the comments.

Posted by: me - Ex Member
Posted on: May 27^th, 2015 at 5:16pm

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Personally, I've never liked the idea of red dots on a public map. To me, dots are earned and/or shared on a need to know basis. That said, I'm still glad there are good dots out there and both you and AZ did impressive work that I can only assume helped a lot of folks, myself included.

Question. I commented on a "campsite" today. What do you do with comments from unregistered visitors? Just kinda curious is all (plus I'm still testing stuff out Wink

~db).

Posted by: bstrege
Posted on: May 27^th, 2015 at 1:38pm

chaga wrote on May 27^th, 2015 at 12:14pm:

Do I need to join mncanoeing to access pcd?

The site was changed to (You need to Login or Register to view media files and links) since it doesn't cover just Minnesota anymore.

To answer your question - no, you don't need to join to access the PCD. To contribute ratings, your would need to register (free). If you contributed to the PCD previously, I can link your old PCD ratings to your account so you can manage/update/delete them. You can also access your own Inukshuk ratings (once you register and let me know what your PCD username was), but no one else can at the moment. There are some paid features, but accessing the PCD, maps, and other data is free.

I wholeheartedly agree with db - I don't actually like the star system, but it is what everyone is used to. I much prefer detailed comments over star ratings. I have seen the same campsite marked one star and five stars by different people. It all depends on what you need out of a campsite. An example is my trip this last weekend with my 5-year-old son. The campsite we stayed at was probably only an average campsite, but it was perfect for him. To the "normal" paddler, it was only three stars, but to us it was 5 stars for that weekend.

Posted by: chaga Posted on: May 27^th, 2015 at 12:14pm	Quote
Well, I am stupid. Do I need to join mncanoeing to access pcd?

Posted by: db
Posted on: May 27^th, 2015 at 8:20am

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Don't sweat it.

Dots are good. Stars are to be avoided sometimes. Comments are in the eye of the beholder.

In the past, I remember adding one or two this is not a campsite anymore type labels. Stars have always been paddler dependent.

Last I looked, there were still unmarked campsites (no one could miss) to be thankful for. There was one point marked a few years ago that I aimed for and it looked good to me but I wasn't up for the LNT thing since it wasn't a campsite anymore so I moved on. The next 4-5 star dot I aimed for would rank e for emergency.

I wouldn't know how many stars to give the site I eventually camped at. It was memorable.

Posted by: bstrege Posted on: May 27^th, 2015 at 3:08am	Quote
Believe it or not, yes, I am still working on getting QJers access to the Inukshuk ratings. Whenever I start working on it, I always seem to get interrupted by something else... I think you are correct that the 5-star ratings are missing but the campsites are still there.

Posted by: thomerwald
Posted on: May 27^th, 2015 at 12:44am

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bstrege wrote on Jul 14^th, 2014 at 6:19pm:

The PCD and its ratings will always be free. I am not going to charge for someone else's work

I am still working on the inukshuk ratings and getting you access to them. Right now you can see your own inukshuk ratings, but no one else can. I will provide a link here in the future (on the inukshuk board) that will give you access to those ratings, similar to what Azalea did in the past.

I looked on the inukshuk board and could not find any link to the advanced ratings. And it looks like this discussion has gone quiet. It's been a few years since I used the PCD so I frankly don't recall what is missing from the non inukshuk ratings. Are all the campsites still there and just the 5 star ratings missing?

If that's all it is, I am OK, as long as i know what I am missing.
Thanks
David Thomas

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