The leatherman steel is brittle-I have broke the saws, small screw divers tips, and shattered the phil's head driver...on more than one. The Gerber I had sheared the main pivot pin on the pliers-only on one and I stopped there. Now I use my hunting knife and the smallest visegrips available-the grips have served me well for years and they came out of my carpentary pouches-years of service there too. I use the my stove tool-the one that came with it-for a screw driver-or the quarter in the first aide kit....Yeah so I am hard on tools...I use them ;)