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https://quietjourney.com/community/YABB.cgi?num=1136568537 Message started by illiniscout on Jan 6th, 2006 at 4:28pm |
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Title: Sylvania Wilderness Post by illiniscout on Jan 6th, 2006 at 4:28pm
I am taking a group of older Boy Scouts to Sylvania Wilderness end of July. Anyone been there? If so do you have any recomendations for campsites or lakes to camp on?
Thanks, IS |
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Title: Re: Sylvania Wilderness Post by old_salt on Jan 6th, 2006 at 8:21pm
Try a search. We have several threads started with your question.
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Title: Re: Sylvania Wilderness Post by butthead on Jan 6th, 2006 at 10:48pm
On Clark Lake both Maple and Pine campsites have beach landings, Birch has room and a lot of solitude.
Loon Lake, Loon campsite, beach landing and room. Crooked Lake has motor boat traffic in the north basin, but is a beautifull paddle thru the narrows. Mountain Lake, Lynx campsite is large and flat area in the maples. Whitefish is the best bass fishing lake. A map is available onlie at (You need to Login or Register. Ecellent campground at north end of Clark Lake with full shower, picnic area, and beach a short hike to the west. I try to get there every year for smallmouth fishing right after Memorial Day. butthead |
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Title: Re: Sylvania Wilderness Post by Jackfish on Jan 8th, 2006 at 7:50pm
Illiniscout,
Are you making plans for Sylvania's maximum group size of 5? |
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Title: Re: Sylvania Wilderness Post by illiniscout on Jan 8th, 2006 at 8:12pm
Jackfish, I am making plans for 2 groups, but I am confused because I have some information that says max group of 5, but the reservation form and the lady at the reservation desk tells me limit of 6 per site. I actually have 4 adults and 7 Scouts. What I understand is that some campsites have 2 sites. She said we could have 2 groups and try to reserve 2 sites in the same campsite. Have I been led astray? ???
Thanks, IS |
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Title: Re: Sylvania Wilderness Post by Bannock on Jan 9th, 2006 at 4:17pm
The last time I was to Sylvania was 1999, so my info may be a bit dated. Confirm it before you take it as gospel. At that time group size was limited to 5 people per campsite, but two groups could travel together. So it could work like this: you paddle and portage with 10 people, but once you got to camp you have to split into two groups of 5. There are some sites with two camping areas close together. Think of it as a mini-camp grounds with two sites. They may be 50 - 100 yards apart. HOWEVER, the two groups must remain separate! They cannot share an evening campfire. They cannot share an evening meal. They, therefore, must be independent (own stoves, gear, dishes, pans, tarp, ....). The next morning they can rejoin to travel to the next spot.
Again, this is old info, so maybe it has been changed from 5 to 6. There is a campgrounds on Clark Lake, but it functions much like a State Park. No group size limits. There you can all gather together. The lakes are small and fairly close together. The portages between lakes are the old roads that served a hunting/fishing club that used to be there. Therefore the portages are wide, fairly level with good footing, and most are fairly short. To me Sylvania feels like a compromise between the BWCA and a state park -- which isn’t all bad. Because of the trails, you can always walk out if need be. And because campsites are assigned at the ranger station, there is no racing for the last campsite on a lake or traveling until midnight looking for a site if you loose that race. Still, there remain a large number of rules and regulations to obey. Special fishing regulations apply there. Larger size limits apply, only artificial lures can be used, only barbless hooks can be used; and it's catch and release on the bass. The one exception to this is Crooked Lake where regular Michigan regulations are in effect, so you might want to plan on at least one night there so the kids can keep the fish they catch. I agree that Whitefish has the best fishing especially for smallmouth. You can catch a 5 pounder there BUT it MUST be released!!! There is only one outfitter that serves Sylvania. It is a couple of miles outside the park. However, the owner is a fantastic source of information. Even if you are outfitting yourselves, make it a point to buy a couple lures and your fishing licenses there. He’ll have a lot of good tips for you and help you to understand some of the obscure fishing regs. You should go to his website (You need to Login or Register Some good info there including a map. It is a great place for first time canoe trippers, but there are rules. Also the place is tiny by BW/Q standards. From the map you will think those lake are much bigger than they are if you are used to BW/Q maps. Some of their “lakes” are ponds. |
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Title: Re: Sylvania Wilderness Post by Bannock on Jan 9th, 2006 at 5:00pm
I found this: (You need to Login or Register It looks like the occupation of a single campsite has been changed to 6. However, travel size is still 10. So it looks like you can have a maximum of 10 people traveling together but can split up 6 - 4 at the site if you like to.
It doesn't look like your group of 11 (7 kids, 4 adults) can travel together. You could do the Clark Lake campground together on Day One, split into two groups going different directions, and then come back together at Clark Lake for your last day. |
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Title: atRe: Sylvania Wilderness Post by illiniscout on Jan 11th, 2006 at 2:26pm
Thanks to everone for all the help! I am going to have 2 seperate groups at different campsites on Whitefish. We are going to camp at the campground and then take off at different times and travel in 2 different groups. Hoping this will be a good trip, especially for the Scouts that have not done a canoe camping trip yet.
Thanks again, IS |
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Title: Re: Sylvania Wilderness Post by butthead on Jan 16th, 2006 at 10:23pm
illiniscout
For what it's worth, Hay lake between Glimmerglass and Whitefish is loaded with rock bass. Can make a good meal in an otherwise catch and release area, plus very easy to catch. butthead |
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Title: Re: Sylvania Wilderness Post by thebutcher on Jan 19th, 2006 at 5:03pm
i didn't know anyone ate rock bass.
thebutcher |
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Title: Re: Sylvania Wilderness Post by Piggyn on Jan 19th, 2006 at 5:46pm
They are tasty when taken out of good, clean waters.
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Title: Re: Sylvania Wilderness Post by jimmar on Feb 2nd, 2006 at 1:15am
Been to Sylvania many times, I never reserve. Best SM fishing I've ever found. All catch and release, artifical bait, no barbed hooks. Best lakes are Whitefish(walleye, bass, NP) some good walleye, Deer Island(SM only) and Clark(biggest SM). I've caught several 20-22 in. on Clark. Katherine Lake in in campground is good for quantity. Three of us(2 at a time) caught ~140 SM in about 4-5 hrs. Only 12 - 17 in. though.
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Title: Re: Sylvania Wilderness Post by Westwood on Feb 5th, 2006 at 12:29am
Nothing wrong with rock bass. When we were kids in northern Wisconsin we would fish for walleyes with minnows. As we were fishing for walleyes we would throw out a worm and catch rock bass. Most nights we didn't catch any walleyes, but we did catch rock bass. So we came home on our bikes with a meal of rock bass. Love those red eyes.
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