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Message started by DentonDoc on Jan 13th, 2006 at 8:38pm

Title: Baking in a roasting bag
Post by DentonDoc on Jan 13th, 2006 at 8:38pm
I was recently looking over recipes posted on the board in search of new ideas and new menu items for my next trip.  Two different posts refer to baking (cornbread and bread) using an oven roasting bag placed inside a pot with about 1 1/2 inches of water.  I guess the idea is to "steam bake" the item.

Anyone ever tried this?  What is your assessment?  The suggested cooking times seem very reasonable.  How accurate are they?

dd

Title: Re: Baking in a roasting bag
Post by flpaddler on Jan 13th, 2006 at 9:06pm
DD,
I use a Bakepacker on occasion, same principal the bread/cake is steam baked. Food comes out just fine, although it is not browned, this could be done by placing it in a fry pan in front of a fire. When using this method to bake use 20% less liquid in your recipe and don't peek.
flp

Title: Re: Baking in a roasting bag
Post by monjon on Jan 14th, 2006 at 12:23am
Ditto on the bakepacker.  I baked Jiffy Cake brand cakes and cornbread many times.  Nice treat.

Title: Re: Baking in a roasting bag
Post by DentonDoc on Jan 14th, 2006 at 3:56am
Experiment #1:  Brownies cooked to perfection.  

Technique:  Put together 1/2 of the mix as directed, with just a tad less water than called for.  (This particular mix was for non-fat brownies and only water was added.  Next time I go for a better quality mix).

Setup:  I poured the mix into a non-stick round pan (actually a light weight skillet) and placed the pan in the roasting bag and sealed with a twist tie.  This configuration was gently lowered into a pot of boiling water such that the pan floated upright in the middle of the boiling water.

Cooking: Directions called for oven cooking time of 30 minutes at 300 degrees.  I put the setup in a covered pot of boiling water for 30 minutes at medium heat.  Then I removed the setup from the heat and let it stand for 15 minutes to cool before opening.  

After cooking, I lifted the configuration out of the pot and removed the pan from the roasting bag.  (Since the roasting bag suffered no damage in this process, it could be re-used.)  I cut and brownies into squares and enjoyed with a glass of milk.  Ahhhhhh!

Experiment #2:  Cinnamon Raisin Bread (I'll let you know how it goes).

BTW:  For the record, I also have a Bakepacker and have used it for years.  I'm just always looking for other alternatives.  Looks like the roasting bags could save some weight and space in the food pack on the next trip.

dd

Title: Re: Baking in a roasting bag
Post by DentonDoc on Jan 14th, 2006 at 8:53pm
Experiment #2:  Cinnamon Raisin Bread (BTW: Both experiment #1 and #2 used Krusteaz mixes purchased at a local grocery store--more out of convenience than preference.)

Technique:  Since there was only one yeast packet, I produced the entire mixture according to directions.  

Setup:  2/3rds of the mixture.  Same as before ... not stick pan, this time coated with light oil, as per directions.  Then entire arrangement placed in a sealed roasting bag and placed inside a covered pot of boiling water.

1/3 of the mixture.  As a cross check, I placed a portion of the dough in a small loaf pan that was lightly coated with oil.

Cooking:  Directions called for placing the loaf pan in a preheated, 400 degree oven for 30 minutes.  I "baked" the roasting bag for an identical amount of time.

After 30 minutes, I checked the oven baked portion.  The top was brown, but cutting into the loaf indicated that it was still doughy internally.  I returned the loaf to the oven for another 10 minutes.  At the end of that time, the top crust was relatively hard and dark brown and the inside was more completely cooked, but still a bit doughy in spots.

After 30 minutes, the heat from the roasting bag loaf was turned off and the apparatus was allowed to cool for 10 minutes.  After that time, the roasting bag was removed and the loaf was checked.  Although slightly brown on the exterior, the outside still had a doughy texture.  At this point, I placed this loaf in a conventional oven for 20 minutes.  After that time, the crust had a light brown color and the interior of the loaf was completely done throughout.

Conclusion:  While the combination of initial "roasting" followed by a conventional oven turned out the much superior loaf, it is probably too much trouble to accomplish in the backcountry.  I believe this arrangement would work fine with bread sticks or rolls.  Still, some form of browning would be desirable on smaller portions.   Complete loaves that are 3-4 inches thick and twice that long are probably not a good option.

On to Experiment #3:  Cornbread.

dd

Title: Re: Baking in a roasting bag
Post by fishinbuddy on Jan 15th, 2006 at 1:55am
Careful, you will end up 400 pounds if you consume too many experiements.  :o

Title: Re: Baking in a roasting bag
Post by DentonDoc on Jan 22nd, 2006 at 2:51am
Experiment #3:  Cornbread.

Mixed (Martha White) package according to instructions, except substituted buttermilk powder and water for milk.

Roasting bag and pot arrangement was the same as before.

Cooking time called for 20-25 minutes in a 400 degree oven.  I cooked in a roasting bag for 30 minutes at medium high heat.

Result:  Perfection.  Of course the top wasn't browned, but otherwise the cornbread was done completely through and was moist.

Alternations:  On my next trial with cornbread, I'd probably reduce the water by maybe 1/8th cup because no water gets baked off in the roasting bag.  It should produced a consistency nearly identical to that produced in an oven.

dd

Title: Re: Baking in a roasting bag
Post by BWCA_blues on Mar 22nd, 2006 at 2:25am
good to hear of your experiments.  we never tried putting a whole pan in in the bag.  We have always just floated the bag in the water.  then we spoon out the baked goods. yum, who cares about the shape of your brownies.  

If you have one of the cooksets where the pan sits on top of a pot you can cook corn bread that way.  We fill the pot with a little water, then set the dual purpose pan/lid for the pot on top.  The pan then has its own lid.  we place hot coals on the lid.  a makeshift dutch oven...  works great.

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