ever since saturday I have been experiencing tremendously slow page loading on the initial page. after i get into the discussion board it seems to be ok for the most part, but certain other things are slow to load also. pictures, portage database, etc. all are painfully slow to open. i have to put the address in the browser and then switch to something else in the interim or it is like watching paint dry. all of this despite being on a T1 line and every other site operating normally. anybody else "slogging through the bog" like this, or any ideas what may be different since Saturday?

thebutcher

Been very slow here also until today. Everything loading fine now.
   IS

Believe me you are singing to the choir... It's been unacceptable for the cost since February. Once in a great, great while it is what it should be for a short time. I understand all too well.

Long story very short - QJ will be changing servers in the next week or two - maybe three if I run into problems. I'll give you guys a heads up a day or three in advance. This forum will be a bit different too if all goes well.

I hate to say this, but I'm finding the new QJ much slower than the old QJ. Anyone else having this problem? :-/

I just changed the board to a more secure version. The server has not changed so our intermittent speed issues will remain for a while. It is a little better though.

Slower than ever today....tried to post a message about the slowness and it was going so slow it wouldn't post. :'(
fishguts

Yup. Today needed extra oooos... (And I appreciate posts like this 'cause they actually help a little.)

I called tech support last night when it started and again today. They agreed... and are supposedly checking into it as there is enough verified documentation that this is indeed an ongoing problem that shouldn't be. I'm still awaiting a call from a system admin with an explaination. (That's a new twist in this saga.)

I tried one VPS, it was a no go - stupid really. The second wasn't much better. Finding out the hard way took time. I'm not a Unix command line sort of guy. In the mean time, it became necessary for this forum to be updated A.S.A.P. ( due to an overload of potential spammers) so the current server problems still exist.

I've been assured twice now that the amount of resources QJ uses is well within the range of their pricey idea of shared hosting and this server has admitted problems.

Perhaps when the dust settles I can give you guys some extra PM space.  ;) ;)

Funny how things work. I always wanted this site to be like a BW/Q trip. I'm calling today just another windy day on a big lake. Oddest thing, Inuks and members paddled into it. Guests all but disappeared from view.

At the moment, everything, even the time intensive stuff, is running freeking great! (Not much else to do while waiting for a phone call with one thing on my mind.)

Everything I've seen after this latest fix is "Zoom, Zoom, Zoom!"

Thanks db

During my session this afternoon, even with my crappy dial-up service, the performance was better than I have seen in a long time. Thanks db.

Seems "turbo-charged", now, db.  Thanks, much!          Jimbo   8-)

Jimbo wrote on Oct 4^th, 2006 at 2:52pm:

Seems "turbo-charged", now, db.  Thanks, much!          Jimbo   8-)

Ditto what he said  :)

Funny thing is the old server is working as it should today too so...


db wrote on Jun 9^th, 2006 at 9:39pm:

At the moment, everything, even the time intensive stuff, is running freeking great! (Not much else to do while waiting for a phone call with one thing on my mind.)

It's working like it should today but I'm going to withhold judgment for a month. I forget how long it took to open my PM inbox back in june. I know the old server didn't do 48 in 2sec way back in February. That's why the 50 limit was implemented so I'm hopeful.

Hey! Guys!! I have tried to get on here twice today....It is running really SLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW!!!! Was UP?

Since the site has been responding very well for me (and I'm accessing it a lot throughout the day), my guess would be it's closer to the Charter Com end. Unless of course :( you found a path to     (You need to Login or Register. That would be a problem I'd want to hear about if you accidentally stumbled upon it from elsewhere on QJ. It's a ~new page w/ a very specific purpose for very special visitors.

Thanks db,
I'm not a wiz  at this stuff, it just took forever to get on to the site ...and forever to get to the POD....other web sites I went to yesterday morning seemed to be running OK....???? Thanks for all your work to make this thing go.

fishguts :)

Hey! Guys!! I have tried to get on here twice today....It is running really SLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW!!!! Was UP? I don't think it's at my end cause I have cable and all the other web sites seem to be running OK....it's even slow page to page..... Urgh! :P

Sorry. It's working fine for me. Very fast. I have wireless.

Still slowwwwwwwwww tonight ....everything else on the internet is running OK except this site.....?????????????????
Makes it hard to hang around here.

The next time you notice it go to   (You need to Login or Register and do a trace (the default setting) for quietjourney.com

Send me the results.

I've noticed a little latency from time to time but nothing serious.

I guess I didn't explain very well so I'm going to answer publicly...

That's interesting... what you did was trace yourself. (I think - If those results are intermittent, as in sometimes those last hops don't time out I'd inform comcast. I don't think those last 4 hops should time out.)

Anyway, you need to type quietjourney.com into the box.   (You need to Login or Register.

Wherever there are time outs is where routing problems lie.

I have no clue what took place but after 5 days of this site running extra slow for me.....it is now back to normal... :) Thanks to the spirits that made this happen!!
Whoever they may be.
fishguts

It's slow today. Arrrrgh.

Not for me.

Timing is everything and SPAM makes the internet go 'round and 'round...

Just a thought - can anyone here read Russian? I'm totally serious. The Google, babelfish translations are pretty much useless on spammer slang.

P.S. - I'm starting to appreciate obfuscated code yet I'd rather just paddle.

db,
I read your currious coments about spam and the Russians....??
But after 1 day of running normally this site is back to SLOWWWWWW!!!!
What"s up??? I love this site but at this slow speed it makes it impossible to be here..................................
fishguts

So I took a peek at your tracks from yesterday.

Looks like the first page you looked at took nearly two minutes to fully load. I don't blame you at all for getting frustrated on that one. There were some other very odd anomalies that make absolutely no sense to me. You looked at like what, 6 pages?

IMO - When I click on a link in this site, I expect the page requested to instantly appear unless I know it's a time intensive page. Patience is usually required on those. Such is life.
After 1 second of waiting, I might blink.
After 2 seconds, I may make a face.
After 4 seconds, OK, yup, I'm a little annoyed now.
After 8 seconds I'm a bit pissed considering what I pay at both ends.
After 16 seconds I'll try to find something more interesting.
After 32 seconds, I'll consider calling because it may be repeatable after touchtone hell and (the usual stuff) - IF and when my timing is absolutely perfect and I expect my experience will be easily reproducible.

IMCO - I know this server better than I'd like to. What I don't know is what sort of virus protection you're running not to mention when it was last updated or run. Considering your tracks, that would be where I'd suggest you take a good look.

If everyone chimed in and agreed things were slow, well, now there's something I could point to and perhaps do something about. It is slower than I'd like to see but all I can truly fine tune to my liking at the moment is the master on/off switch on a somewhat individual basis. The things I can't control seem a bit better today than yesterday... Everyone's mileage may vary a little bit. Yours, I expect, is way outside the norm unless a bunch of people chime in to tell me otherwise.

I have the newest Norton Edition....just renewed it, yesterday, but the problems were started a couple of weeks ago.
Now it takes 2 minutes to do anything.....sign on, check the POD, change from page to page.......Oh! now I don't get the POD....just a box telling me what I'm missing.
If it works this way for everyone with Norton Anti-Virus, you guys are in trouble!
I will not be visiting much anymore, too frustrating :-/ I'll check in once in a while to see if you have it fixed!
Don't expect a contribution from me  :'(
For now I'm done!
fishguts

I don't think I have ever had a slow connection since the new server took over.  Sometimes the lunch hour is a little slower but nothing to make me leave the site - I just figure everyone else up here is using the ISP at the same time choking the tunnel up a bit.  I just installed Norton's 2006 at both home and office and it hasn't effected my internet - (the email is another story however).

While this particular forum is the least read and while anyone with the a similar problem may not want to take the same two minutes to post when e-mail would be soooooo much faster...

This site is not as fast as it use to be with the new server for the time intensive stuff I do more than a few times a day - I'll agree w/ anyone on that but is anyone experiencing any greater problems than I stated above to simply view or post a reply?

No need to reply if it's acceptable to you. I know what the usual traffic load adds up to on a daily basis any day of the week.

I looked and sent an e-mail. Is anyone else having a huge problem. It doesn't look that way to me - for anyone who requested the POD at least. While he did not get the image - everyone else did as far as I skimmed.

If you have a problem speak up here. Normally where there's one there's more.

trying this for the first time here eveything working fine Huston!

Hey! It pays to keep at it!!! This site is now running full speed for me again.........wonderful!! I hope it stays this way!  :) [smiley=dankk2.gif]
fishguts

It's been getting worse and worse again. I called tech support again earlier today and they could reproduce the latency so their checking into it. I could list my three favorite classic lies but...

A favor please:
Whenever you have to wait longer than 20 seconds before a page even begins to load I'd like everyone to post here. (And yes I know that will take some time when it is sloooooow like this.) Say what ever you want but just saying arrrgh will do. I just want something easy to point to point to in the future.

We anticipate a hold time of at least fife to ten minutes... Now that's unusual!

Hopefully this affecting other servers and they can fix it.

BTW - My last three posts were pre written this was as fast as I could post them with the phone at my shoulder.

I just now got off the phone with tech support. There's another chunk of my life I'll never get back. Note to self - 8812478.2

arrrgh.

The Beaver

my first experience ever with S    L    O    W   access.   waa waa X'n waa.  tweeking the system or something?    Jan

Having the SLOW problem here too. Timed out three times trying to get here. 7:43 p.m. Mountain Time 01/08/07

Mark

Oops... didn't see this thread until after I sent you an IM db.

Yep, it's slow tonight. [smiley=thumbdown.gif]

I experienced slowness yesterday afternoon too.  Seems better today, but not as fast as sometimes.

8812478.3?? Interesting. The previous .2 eventually resulted in a server move after some very harsh words were traded. Turned out great for a month or so after a few false starts.

I never even knew there was a .3 before today .... hmmmm  >:(

Good to see this - looked like the site was down for the last hour or so (?)
Thanks db!

That's more like it  8-) Hope it lasts.

db

It sure seems to be flying along nicely now! Thanks again for all you do!

M and A

4:18 PM Central

Excruciatingly bad!
Nauseatingly bad!
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300 baud modem bad.

It has to be reproducible when I call so it will get worse before it gets better. It was nice for a few days though.


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Date: Sat Jan 13, 2007  5:02:15  PM America/Chicago <SNIP> Site Connectivity Issue Hello David, Thank you for contacting technical support regarding: --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Site Loading Issue --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Our system have corrected this issue on your site. Your website is loading a lot better now.. I went to it and it loads properly at this time. Please let me know if you still having issues accessing your site.

We anticipate a hold time of greater than 10 minutes.

Whooo hooo! They have new muzak!  At least I had something positive to say. .3 continues to surprise.

seems slow from here today, but I've noticed some slowness from other sites too - could be local net issues or my PC.

No it's this server. I've called every day this week. They know it. Here's the basic replies:
"Upon further review, we have found two abusive users... Your site is loading normally now that the offending processes have been stopped.

"I have monitored this server today, and found another account that was utilizing most of the available processes.  This issue has since been corrected."

They want me to move to a different (cheaper) plan. That plan won't work for QJ. Unfortunately, hosting is paid through August. I've already called my credit card company for a charge back. That got someone's attention so the site was fine for a while and I paid it once they threatened to shut it down.

They can fix it. They choose not to and I'm sorry but I'm a stubborn SOB. I want what I paid for plus moving this site is a three day job and I just did that like 4 months ago. Since then I added a lot of server specific things to make sure QJ wasn't the site hogging all the resources.

What they won't say is if the reason is sites are knowingly abusing resources or if there's some known security hole that allows processes to be commandeered by outside sources. It makes a huge difference to me. Putting too many sites on a server is one thing. Not being to control access is another.

PITFA

db wrote on Feb 1^st, 2007 at 7:09pm:

...but I'm a stubborn SOB...

I know the feeling.  I just spent an entire morning fighting a piece of 'technology' in a lab ...only to find out someone had changed one obscure setting without letting anyone know!  I respect your desire to fight & be stubborn & not give up - I hate to let the inamimate object win!  But it sucks up so much time!   >:( >:(

Thanks for all the effort. This site is still the best!   8-)

db wrote on Feb 1^st, 2007 at 7:09pm:

No it's this server. I've called every day this week. They know it. Here's the basic replies: "Upon further review, we have found two abusive users... Your site is loading normally now that the offending processes have been stopped. "I have monitored this server today, and found another account that was utilizing most of the available processes.  This issue has since been corrected." They want me to move to a different (cheaper) plan. That plan won't work for QJ. Unfortunately, hosting is paid through August. I've already called my credit card company for a charge back. That got someone's attention so the site was fine for a while and I paid it once they threatened to shut it down. They can fix it. They choose not to and I'm sorry but I'm a stubborn SOB. I want what I paid for plus moving this site is a three day job and I just did that like 4 months ago. Since then I added a lot of server specific things to make sure QJ wasn't the site hogging all the resources. What they won't say is if the reason is sites are knowingly abusing resources or if there's some known security hole that allows processes to be commandeered by outside sources. It makes a huge difference to me. Putting too many sites on a server is one thing. Not being to control access is another. PITFA

db
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