Well I built the reflector oven that Denton Doc talked about. It was pretty easy to do. I made one change I used threaded rod as the grates. I will put wing nuts on one grate to help hold the oven together. The other ones will help hold things in place due to the threads sitting on the aluminum keeping them from moving. I got this idea from the backpacking flashing oven I built. Now I got to go cook something to see how it works. Maybe another day, I think the winds are abot 30MPH out there today. There are white caps on my bird bath.