"I hate that they don't have 1/2 sizes, as I am right in the middle.  I ended up getting the size up 12's as I would rather deal with something a little big than too small.  

Thanks for the reviews and if anyone could offer something on the ankle support and sizing I would appreciate it. "


OK -

I typically wear size 8, and depending on fit, will go with 8 1/2 if available.

I bought a pair of size 8 Abyss boots (on the advise of someone at OTB who I e-mailed or phoned, don't recall)  - I wear three pair of socks in them, a liner, a midweight synthetic, and a heavier wool hiking sock - that gives me a very snug fit, and some insulation.  When you get the boots, they come with some "modular fit" insole inserts, to customize the fit.  I do not use the additional set that they gave me, but could use them to "shrink" the fit if I wanted to.  They provide the option for use with neoprene booty type socks if you want to use them, or not.

I think the OTB boots give great ankle support - the lacing provides for a snug fit.  I also have Chota Quetico Trekkers, which if I recall , I bought a size nine as I had heard to go one higher on those.  The bungee lacing is way too loose, and started to come apart afer the second day or so - I replaced with parachute cord, but they still are a sloppier fit, even with the 3 layers of socks I wear.  They are cut a bit lower than OTB, and are not as padded around the ankle, nor as
supportive.  I wore them (chotas) a few weeks ago for a 3-day river trip with a bit of hiking, so my thinking is from recent use

I just finished my third Quetico trip with the OTB boots - did about 60 portages, and wet foot the landings - the boots are still as good as new, and haven't shown any sign of wear.  

I like the boots so well that I'm thinking of getting another pair to stash in the closet, just in case the company goes out of business, like has happened to so many products I have liked, that can no longer be bought for one reason or another.