wrote on Oct 31^st, 2008 at 3:18pm:

Same group of guys with drinking problems. Different ideas about open container laws. Don't trip with them any more. I'm having more fun and never looked back.

Same problems I had, same solution. I don't care what people do for fun ONCE camp is set-up, chores done and dinner's over and cleaned up.
If you want too drink and play cards until well past mid-night, AND you can get up and be on the water by 7 AM on a travel day, then MORE power too you!
Problem is, they couldn't and I was left herding "cats" and being the bad guy.
 I'm still going, they have been since, so I guess my complaints had merit ;)