So true. That's why I use synthetic, just a personal philosophy nothing more than that....2 each their own. The driver in this philo for me is more Murphy's Law than anything else....I dont ever want to be in "bad" situation again, and I perceive down with all of its attributes and short comings from that stand point-being warm if my gear was soaked to the bone is worth the little bit of extra weight, volume, and longevity. Wet down is a really big drag especially went you have the issue of hypothermia staring you in the face.