Yea, the outback oven is the way to go. I like to use it with MSR's pocket rocket because of ease of use and excellent simmer capability. There's just something about flickin a bic and having a blowtorch or a steady tiny flame without priming, pumping etc. After I got the outback I found having two stoves is really nice as I could be baking that pan of lemon poppy seed muffins and dinner or afternoon coffee all at the same time.