I notice a lot of people at portages dont seem to have a rescue rope at hand in their canoe,canoe rules in Canada are you must have one 15 meter heaving line.One bailing device ,we carry a large sponge and a sounding device, we carry a whistle, one life jacket per person these things could save your life .On a different note while on the road between Atikokan and Fort Frances my trailer had a blow-out three people stopped to offer help within ten minutes and one police officer ,Thank You to the friendly people who stopped to help.Wolf

theshydow wrote on Aug 17^th, 2009 at 7:07pm:

...canoe rules in Canada are you must have one 15 meter heaving line.One bailing device ,we carry a large sponge and a sounding device, we carry a whistle

And no PFD?

theshydow wrote on Aug 17^th, 2009 at 7:07pm:

I notice a lot of people at portages dont seem to have a rescue rope at hand in their canoe,canoe rules in Canada are you must have one 15 meter heaving line.One bailing device ,we carry a large sponge and a sounding device, we carry a whistle, one life jacket per person these things could save your life .On a different note while on the road between Atikokan and Fort Frances my trailer had a blow-out three people stopped to offer help within ten minutes and one police officer ,Thank You to the friendly people who stopped to help.Wolf

I'm not sure, but I think these rules, except for the PFD requirement, apply to canoes registered in Canada...

Yeah, there's been several threads here on the topic, of whether those rules apply to US visitors - the concensus seems to be that they don't - for a fact, the QPP rangers or whoever does the paperwork have never mentioned any legal requirement to have that equipment, and I'd think they would do so if it was indeed required.  Your list is included on the pamphlet/ "Wildernesss Guide" which includes the heaving line - but I think there is a catch 22 that gets us visitors off the barbless hook.

Anyone that has used a Canadian outfitter, have they said you needed the heaving line? - I'd think there might be some legal/or liability issue to renting a boat without required safety equipment, but maybe not.

Personally, I don't see any use for a throw bag on a lake trip, though you could get some multi-funtion use I suppose - clothesline?  Carry one if you feel better about it though.  

I do find a bailer to come in handy for other things - have actualy used it once to bail the boat after a heavy hour long rainstorm, but I use it to fill a water bag to filter out of, and for a quick dip of water to douse a fire with - have even shaved out of one, rather then mess up my one cooking pot.  Its light enough to not be an issue for me, where a throw bag is heavy enough that I wouldn't carry one for that reason alone - I alredy have plenty of line from my food hanging kit if I need some rope.


I think these are the "Catch 22" for US boaters

"Foreign pleasure craft (pleasure craft that are licensed or registered in a country other than Canada) need to comply with equipment requirements of the country in which the vessel is usually kept.
If you are not a resident of Canada and are using a pleasure craft licensed or registered in Canada, all of the required safety equipment must meet Canadian safety requirements. However, you may opt to bring your own PFD for your own personal use."


and this from the “Small Vessel Regulations” - same section that the required equipment list comes from

Application
16. (1) Subject to subsection (2), this Part applies in respect of every pleasure craft that is operated in Canada.
(2) This Part does not apply in respect of a pleasure craft that is operated in Canada if it is ordinarily kept in a country other than Canada and it complies with any licensing, registration and equipment requirements of that country.
SOR/99-54, s. 2.

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M_M,
I think your right about the loophole thing.
I know that when I rent my canoe from Q-Dave he told me that I had to take a bailer, have a PFD with me, and sound source of some kind.
Nothing about any "heaving" rope.
I also think the "rental" PFD must be Orange in color, but if you bring your own, it doesn't?