I guess I'm the problem db,  ;)

I don't usually build fires on my solo trips, even in Oct. Group trips in spring, I may build one during the trip just to show how cooking over a fire works to newbies. But if I'm doing the cooking, I'd rather use a stove.

Oct/solo I'll light a candle lantern under a tarp,,,my yellow tarp glows and reflects light nicely,,,slip on a headlamp and read a good book outside till it's time to head to the tent.

So I don't look to see if there's a firering or not when I camp. But this fall I've got some guys going along and we'll probably use fireplaces. Be interesting to see how much extra time and effort it takes. I know some people, not you db, worry about their manhood and using fire only. I guess I'm pretty secure and not worried about it. Others really enjoy a fire,,,I do too,,,it's just takes work and I choose to save my energy for other things.

That's my 2 cents.  8-)