HAHA!  Sometimes it is amazing when I hear fellow teachers complain about students, only to turn around and do the same thing!  Thanks, Tim, for making me laugh as I was writing syllabi for Spring.

Even though I wont be making a Q trip with this group, I hope to do so very soon with some others.  So I will stow that info for then!  

As I keep researching, I find their is always just one more entry point to look up and consider; it will probably be worse when I am out there and it is "One more lake!  Just a short portage away!  Come on guys, keep up!"  lol