Thanks Matt, Looks like this has already been discussed at some length.

I dislike sniping as it is easy to do and often unfair and unkind so please don't misunderstand my intention. I also like to "figure things out for myself", but the wise counter weight to that is a quote from Eleanor Roosevelt which goes something like this,

"Life is to short to make all the mistakes yourself, better to learn from others mistakes".

She has many quotes that have kernels of wisdom and are often rather amusing. Interesting woman. Check her out....
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