Oh I am definitely looking at used, can't afford new. Also, we would not be fishing with the toddler on board, just my 2 older children and I. I suppose I could always float my older son on a raft tube tied to the canoe, but not sure if that would be any safer. I guess we will just have to stick close to the camp, take turns and all that, and if anyone thinks I am going out with PDF's there is NO way I would do that. Thanks all