Ancient_Angler wrote on Jul 26^th, 2010 at 12:12pm:

Is that bag slippery, as is common among waterproof gear? If so, I don't think I'd like it.

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Yes,the bag is slippery.  That is why I'd still take the flannel "envelope."  Actually, my wife put this together for me several years ago.  Fashioned it from a flannel pillow case we had laying around the house.  It is VERY comfortable, and by itself, takes up very little space.


Mad_Mat wrote on Jul 26^th, 2010 at 12:52pm:

I've done that with a gallon ziplock bag, maybe a third full of air. If held the air, but kept slipping out from under - I gave up on that idea.    I just use a stuffbag with clothes, or more oftan, just my fleece jacket folded up into a 4 or 5 inch thick pile, with that on top of my spread out PFD.  The pfd is propped up/leaning against the tent well, and that helps keep the bag from contacting the tent wall as well as adding to my "pillow"

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My flannel "pillow case" should take care of slippage.  I was just not confident that a ziplock bag would hold air overnight.

I generally use my rain gear at my head/feet to serve as a waterproof boundary between my bag and tent ... provided it is dry.  It is actually stuffed in one of the pneumo bags I mentioned ... that's what got me thinking about using one as a pillow insert, rather than clothing, which I have to drag out of my clothing stuff sack and re-stuff in the AM.

So, since the pneumo bag (rain gear storage) is commonly laying empty inside my tent, I was considering the possibility of using it overnight.  Sounds like an experiment for my next trip ... not like I don't have clothes to stuff if it doesn't work!  It just that the extra clothes do wind up a bit smelly toward the end of a two-week trip.

BTW:  I did try just using clothing wrapped in a bundle for a pillow.  Guess I'm an active sleeper because the bundle rarely lasted the night.

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