Anyone use the ceviche approach to cooking fish on a canoe trip?  How many limes did you take?  (Did you juice the limes before hand?) Any favorite recipe?

dd  

I haven't done it on a canoe trip (yet) but I love ceviche.  I've made it a few times at home though.  I bet it would be good on a trip too and the thought has definitely crossed my mind before.

What kind of fish do you think would work best?  I've heard of, but never tried, ceviche with salmon so I guess lakers would be one possibility.  Walleye of course might work.  I bet the best fish to use might be deboned northern pike though.  Nice firm texture.

I think I'd squeeze the limes at home just before I left and bring the juice in a small lexan bottle.  I'd be worried about how it might taste coming out of a nalgene.  My base recipe at home calls for the juice of 6 limes for 2 lbs of seafood if that helps.  Of course there's fresh peppers and whatnot in there too.  If you were doing fish only you could get by with less.

Would you bring in a fresh red bell pepper and a red onion to dice in?  What about a little fresh ginger?  Jalapenos if course.  Then of course there's cilantro if you like it, but you might have to go with dried there.  Avacado?  For sure, a meal that would have to be eaten early in the trip if you bring fresh ingredients for it.  Even some fresh wild blueberries in there would provide an interesting substitution for recipes calling for mango instead of avacado...

For sure, you could make an awesome meal using ceviche and the only thing you'd need a stove or fire for is to heat the dishwater.  :)

One of these days when I plan a trip with an easy first day with not too many portages and some time to fish...it's going to have to happen.  [smiley=thumbup.gif]

I like it as well, but if solo, I think I would try the recipe at home and duplicate it exactly on the water.
If you've ever gotten sick from seafood/fish, you know what I'm talking about :P

A quick Google search says that the best Ceviche is from firm/meaty fish, saltwater choices would be fish with flesh similar to Tuna/Swordfish.
" They" say to avoid flaky type fish as it falls apart, and oily fish becasue it won't absorb the citrus.


I think that would probably leave out Walleye as it tends to be flaky and Lake Trout for it's oiliness. I've heard of Salmon being used as well. I thought Salmon and Lake Trout were both oily fish? Maybe a particular species of Salmon is being used.
I think NP and SM/LAMB, might be good choices too. Firm flesh and not oily or flaky.

One site recommended " Ling", which is a type of Cod I believe? Seems odd, becasue I thought Cod was an oily fish :-/

IF cod is suitable, the Ling-Ling fish that I caught on Quetico Lk would be good. I know its excellent cut up in Cache Lake Fish Chowder.

I've read it all now.  Foody's.   ::)

This sounds yummy!

PhantomJug wrote on Mar 22^nd, 2011 at 5:35pm:

I've read it all now.  Foody's.   ::)

I kinda know what you mean PJ :-?
I feel the same way when I hear "Boozies" discussing the merits of wine or single malt liquors  ::)
I'm a peasant basically. My only criteria is whether something tastes good and I can enjoy it without a long " break-in" period.  ;)

"Boozies"?  Really?  Don't get me wrong.  I'm all for good food (and good whisky) and creative fish recipes; I experiment all the time.

Dip perch fillets in honey, coat in crushed graham crackers and sea salt, fry in coconut oil . . .  but I digress.

But I'll eat my hat as soon as some dude paddles up to me and asks for my Ceviche recipe before he asks for a pull of the jug.

Back OT: Actually this sounds a lot like my fish salsa recipe and didn't even know it.  It's best with pickled NP IMO.

Actually, I was thinking in terms of "its a hot day and standing over the fire cooking dinner is not something I'm looking forward to."  I'll pack a pasta salad meal on summer trips for the same reason.  On a layover day, I'll cook the pasta in the AM (when it is cooler), park it where it can stay cool for the day, and have the salad that evening.

But, what brought Ceviche to mind is that my wife just had it in Miami and daughter just had it in Panama.

PJ -

Ever try your fillets dipped in honey and coated with ground pecans?

dd

DentonDoc wrote on Mar 23^rd, 2011 at 7:20pm:

Ever try your fillets dipped in honey and coated with ground pecans?

Haven't.   But I do like pecans.

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But I'll eat my hat as soon as some dude paddles up to me and asks for my Ceviche recipe before he asks for a pull of the jug.

Just think how impressed they'd be IF when asking for a pull of your jug, you offered them some Ceviche as an appetizer 8-)

A friend of mine is a self proclaimed gourmet and budding oenophile(?)
A few summers ago he had a party and told me to bring something to drink. I brought a 6-pack of local craft beer, and a BOX of Cabernet made in Australia. ( Price was right ;D)

When I got there his wife pulled me aside and said that her husband had invited some new friends of his from a wine appreciation course as well. She said that I should be prepared for their snooty comments on my wine selection.

 I come to the back yard, and all the wine people are huddled off by themselves, sniffing/swirling, waxing intelligent over the merits of their wines of choice ::)

The other guests who I mostly knew, were just socializing, hanging around the grill/food area.

Not wanting to miss a chance for mischief, I walked right up and put my 2 Liter box-o-wine on their table and proceeded with great flourish to get the spigot out and fill my glass partly, swirl/sniff and spit it into the bushes, proclaiming " An excellent year and for $8.99, a real bargain" ;D

My friend was Sooo embarrassed, a few of his new Friends acted like I had passed gas, but 90% of the people cracked up and before the night was over and my box wine gone, I had more than a few wine lovers tell me that MY selection was heads and tails over the pricey stuff they brought ;)

There is a fine line between being knowledgeable and just being pretentious. I admire/respect the first, love to poke at the second ;)

As long as the thread is already hi-jacked (sorry dd) I'm no whisky snob either (beer snob? . . . probably) and I can't remember the last time my cabernet sauvignon was delivered via removing a cork.  In fact, there WILL BE a box or two that makes the food pack this year (to compliment my ceviche no doubt.)

Not bad guys.  I always figured the clowning days took a hit when Jimbo accepted his new job and had to start working.  The Food forum just may be QJ's hidden goldmine.
"Honey, would you take out the garbage?" "You cooked it, you take it out."

-YB

You have no idea of the restraint I have used since mastertangler & Preacher started posting (and solo always seemed to sensitive).

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(and solo always seemed to sensitive).

Not many people who know/interact with me would say that :-?
My seeming too " sensitive" is part of the problem if you want to call it that with electronic communication.

You can't tell from my tone/facial expressions whether I'm being " sensitive" or just being sarcastic/jerking someones chain/ attempting to be humorous( failing miserably sometimes), or I'm actually mad about something.

99% of the time, I'm just BS-ing like I would if I was talking to you in person. I'm far from being a "sensitive" type. I rarely take offense or get mad in person. I suppose you can take this response as proof of my being " too sensitive" but you'd be wrong.

The only exception to that is when I feel and the text shows, that the discussion/argument has become personal. Name calling and disparaging one's intelligence or ethics/sincerity/religious beliefs isn't something I would tolerate in person, I damn sure won't do it here.

I've read enough of your post's PJ to know you can be equally taken as being sarcastic / insensitive/ sensitive and that when you feel it's personal, you don't tolerate it either.

So let's agree that we BOTH might be taken in ways that we didn't necessarily mean? You can't control how others take your words, especially if you not looking them in the eye, or hearing their voice.
IF everyone here was PC all the time, this would be a very different place and IMHO boring as hell  ;)

PhantomJug wrote on Mar 24^th, 2011 at 3:53am:

You have no idea of the restraint I have used since mastertangler & Preacher started posting (and solo always seemed to sensitive).

That was a joke but apparently not a good one.

PhantomJug wrote on Mar 24^th, 2011 at 4:27pm:

PhantomJug wrote on Mar 24th, 2011 at 3:53am: You have no idea of the restraint I have used since mastertangler & Preacher started posting (and solo always seemed to sensitive). That was a joke but apparently not a good one.

See what I mean ;D
Now that you pointed it out, It's clear you meant to be sarcastic/humorous. I was being too " sensitive" to realize it :-[
I like it ;)

solotripper wrote on Mar 24^th, 2011 at 3:39pm:

My seeming too " sensitive" is part of the problem if you want to call it that with electronic communication.

Totally agree.  That's exactly how I feel when someone calls me "unamerican" or "american wannabe".

The voice others hear when they read my posts isn't my voice, it's one of theirs that they assign to me such that I can be easily pigeon-holed to fit their limited experience/understanding.

:D

"limited" fiddlesticks...just different.

Preacher wrote on Mar 24^th, 2011 at 5:56pm:

solotripper wrote on Mar 24th, 2011 at 3:39pm: My seeming too " sensitive" is part of the problem if you want to call it that with electronic communication. Totally agree.  That's exactly how I feel when someone calls me "unamerican" or "american wannabe". The voice others hear when they read my posts isn't my voice, it's one of theirs that they assign to me such that I can be easily pigeon-holed to fit their limited experience/understanding. :D

One hand gives, the other takes away.
You are " unamerican" by birth and your countries social/political differences. Not necessarily a bad thing, just a different one.
The " wannabee" is what I feel you come across as sometimes. As you say, it may not be your voice, just one I/others may assign to you.


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limited experience/understanding.

Is their anyone here who disagrees with you that DOESN'T have limited experience/understanding in your eye's :question  "Fiddlesticks" is mild compared to what I thought when I read your post.
Nobody has to "pigeonhole" you, your comments do it for you.

So at the risk of being called a foodie (or worse), I'll admit that we tried some ceviche two years ago with lake trout.  Used 2 fresh limes and some soy sauce, maybe some chili pepper flakes, and one filet from a decent sized LT cut into bite-sized chunks.

Let it sit for a couple of hours - and chowed away.  Quite good.  

One of our former tripmates is a chef and suggested we try it.  I think it could have sat in the lime juice a little longer to firm up some more, but it was good anyways.

We did this on our last night of the trip - just in case :)

I'm a little wary of what I catch out there.  Many times I've cleaned fish & found worms while examining the stomach contents.  No problem if it's cooked through.


I do love how it's all untrue when applied to ST, but all true when applied by ST.   :D
On some forums I frequent the use of a smiley is protocol for sarcasm, joking & playful prodding.

Love is love. Sarcasm is stirring the pot without the former. Boot extractors look a lot of different ways, and pride can get in the way of love. Just Sayin  :)

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I do love how it's all untrue when applied to ST, but all true when applied by ST.

It's my truth, which may or may not be anyone else's.
The difference between my " truths" and yours, is that I usually preface them with " IMHO/ I think/believe or from my personal experience".

Most of yours are more like "pronouncements of indisputable facts" that shouldn't be challenged or questioned. No smiley for that comment/observation needed.

Touche'

mastertangler wrote on Mar 28^th, 2011 at 5:09pm:

Touche'

You've mis-spelled 'Douche'   ;)

His declaration simply re-inforces mine.  If it's directed at ST, it's eye-of-the-beholder perception.  If it's ST's perception, it's fact.   ;D

Preacher wrote on Mar 29^th, 2011 at 4:21pm:

mastertangler wrote on Mar 28th, 2011 at 5:09pm: Touche' You've mis-spelled 'Douche'   ;)

Good one preacher......well done.  ;D

Benjamin Franklin the world class statesman would often preface his remarks thusly........"it is my belief"......"I am of the opinion" and many others likewise. This nuance made his beliefs much more palatable to the listener as ST so adroitly pointed out.

Likewise, I believe the converse is true that when one makes broad sweeping assertions of absolute fact it is generally not received well for it dismisses any opposing view and indeed tends to foster contention. Do you have a lot of contentious relationships? Applying this simple yet profound style of discourse may help alleviate conflicts. Your points are still expressed howbeit in a manner more acceptable to the listener. It also intrinsically shows respect for others as they now feel fully free to express their own opinion without crossing swords. And who knows......as has often been demonstrated on this very forum you could be wrong and you might learn something (sorry, I couldn't resist ;) ).

Since you have thus far refused the peace gift of the super duper fishing spots that I offered I will instead make the above counsel and advice available to you at no charge. You can thank me later.

MT  

 

IMO if my perception is correct about this nebulous complex situation it might be worth given the time to give it a test drive because there is real nothing to lose.