Oh woe, oh sadness for being scoffed and I am not even a liberal, and I have fallen out of the shower(small) thankfully since I wasn't wearing a helmet I landed outside on the carpet, nope it wasn't the scotch or even the Irish just the revenue I generate me thinks.

Wow, like preacher i use the kayak style, they are all the comfort I can afford.

Giving some thought to the MI bite, thanks for the info might come in handy some day but it won't due to my inability to read or because I won't be wearing the other seatbelt since I am headed that way, but not in a dang yak.

I don't understand all this hubbub.... they float yah or the corpse, they're stylist, keep yah warm, provide more protection from the blisters on the back and shoulders, great ass pad for lunch, handy for a nap after lunch, good protection for a bear bite, and a long with all the multi-use functionality they work over and over again; more than ya can say about those government mandated air bags.