ive tossed the regular bulldogs a bit and man do they wear you out fast. id like it if the tail section didnt sit so low, they kinda swim nose up and i dont know if i really like that. the spring bulldogs(minis) are kinda neat. never tried them though. they make a rod specific for throwing bulldogs and they are almost worth the cost. they are long and stiff, just what you need for tossing those beasts around. they cast a mile

@mt, for trolling, you gotta try the "believer" or 'swim whizz" baits. those are my favorites.

on a random side note, i found a jointed depth raider, probably was firetiger but its pretty sun faded on oriana, if anyone here is the rightful owner, i could get that back to you