upon further discussion and a 9 hour ice fishing outing (mostly within the confines of my popup shack) with my 2 brothers, its been concluded they do not have the desire to do an ice trip. they had cabin fever after about 3 hours and lost interest in fishing before then. it didnt help that we werent catching anything, but thats part of the possibility.

they concluded after many hours of poking fun at my ideas that if i were to buy all the necessary items to even attempt at local overnight outing, that the odds would still be slim to none.

the speculation was fun while it lasted.