Okay, but when are you guys doing most of your fishing - June and July?  My trips are mostly from the first week in August until Labor Day. So deep is good.  I don't really "fish" that much.  By that I mean with wind and all, it really is a lot of work to stay in the zone, so its mostly trolling.  I had pretty good success last year with just jigs and tails and I plan to take some.  I have some seriously heavy ones so I can get down there and I did manage to boat an 8 pound walleye that way last season.  But when it comes to trout and big pike, I've done best trolling in-line weight.  But to be perfectly honest, I just like to try something new.  I picked up some Sutton flutter spoons and I just want to give them a try - they're so darn purty.  It seems like an elegant way to fish deep.