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Message started by solotripper on Apr 11th, 2017 at 4:34am

Title: DIY Braided Jute/Wax Firetube
Post by solotripper on Apr 11th, 2017 at 4:34am
Like most people, I use a lighter to start most of my campfires. A little Birch Bark and some dry split wood and I'm good to go.

However, there are times the fire just doesn't want to take off and that lighter gets hot and you use it up fast.

I did a little research and think this is one of the better ideas and how-to-videos.

I made one up over the weekend and it works just as advertised. Will be going on trips from now on.
Check it out.

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Title: Re: DIY Braided Jute/Wax Firetube
Post by Old Salt on Apr 11th, 2017 at 2:30pm
Propane torch usually does the job. ;)

Title: Re: DIY Braided Jute/Wax Firetube
Post by solotripper on Apr 11th, 2017 at 3:30pm

Old Salt wrote on Apr 11th, 2017 at 2:30pm:
Propane torch usually does the job. ;)

 
Slip it in Wally 13's pack he'll never know it  ;) ;D

Title: Re: DIY Braided Jute/Wax Firetube
Post by TomT on Apr 11th, 2017 at 11:38pm
That's a really cool video.  It's also a product that this guy should get massed produced and sell.  Or just sell them out of his garage. 

Looks like something I would definitely take with on trips.  But - I also know I'm too lazy to build one.  :-/  I usually just take a bag of dryer lint and also commercial sticks (Coughlins?) of firestarter.

Title: Re: DIY Braided Jute/Wax Firetube
Post by solotripper on Apr 12th, 2017 at 2:57am

Quote:
  It's also a product that this guy should get massed produced and sell.


The problem with that is that there are literally dozens of videos out there all a variation on the same idea.

I don't know how you could protect your idea from being copied by others or if the cost would be worth the effort.

From start to finish it took maybe 30 minutes to make it. The longest part but easy was making the initial jute braid.
 
The tube is a piece of 1/4" flared steel tube from auto parts store I cut to length, the wax part was easy too.


Title: Re: DIY Braided Jute/Wax Firetube
Post by TomT on Apr 12th, 2017 at 5:16am

solotripper wrote on Apr 12th, 2017 at 2:57am:

Quote:
  It's also a product that this guy should get massed produced and sell.



From start to finish it took maybe 30 minutes to make it. The longest part but easy was making the initial jute braid.
 
The tube is a piece of 1/4" flared steel tube from auto parts store I cut to length, the wax part was easy too.


Hey, if you ever get bored.....  What's a good price with shipping for one maybe with a foot long jute rope?  All you need is the initial tube right?  So a kit could be maybe three sections of waxed rope.  Then you could sell replacement jute packs.

I think if you had a customer base from loyal friends on message boards it might be a source of extra income for someone with time on their hands.

On another board someone makes sheaths for a particular saw.  On Hammock Forums there's a whole bunch of cottage vendors with all kinds of homemade accessories.  I could see myself doing it for others if I wasn't so dang busy.



Title: Re: DIY Braided Jute/Wax Firetube
Post by DentonDoc on Apr 12th, 2017 at 5:55am
Yep.  I whipped together some of these about a month ago just to have something to fiddle with.  I think I probably also saw the same video.  Unfortunately, the only jute I had available was very thin, so I did three 3-strand braids and then braided those three into a single larger strand.  (I needed the practice since it has been quite a while since I braided anything.)  However, the consequence of this was a substantial bundle of jute fiber in a reasonably small diameter (still would fit in the tube).

Easy project and excellent results.  I even saw one demo where the person dunked the wax impregnated jute cord into water for a couple of minutes while he talked.  Then, he slung the water off, fluffed the tip, hit it with a spark and it fired right up.

This will get stuffed in a baggie and into a pocket for my next trip.

Title: Re: DIY Braided Jute/Wax Firetube
Post by db on Apr 12th, 2017 at 6:37am
Am I the only former alter boy here?

Title: Re: DIY Braided Jute/Wax Firetube
Post by solotripper on Apr 12th, 2017 at 11:55am

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I even saw one demo where the person dunked the wax impregnated jute cord into water for a couple of minutes while he talked.  Then, he slung the water off, fluffed the tip, hit it with a spark and it fired right up.


This IS that video  8-) This same guy has a YouTube site where he talks/shows a lot of things like this. He winter camps and paddles too. He knows what he's doing that's for sure.

You can also use PURE cotton rope, but that is more expensive and harder to find. IF the rope ISN'T pure, then it melts to ITSELF and doesn't FLUFF like you need to ignite with a ferro rod/striker.


Quote:
Am I the only former altar boy here?


I wasn't an altar boy but now that you mention it, I can see the connection. Good enough for that, good enough for me.  ;) ;D

Title: Re: DIY Braided Jute/Wax Firetube
Post by Jimbo on Apr 12th, 2017 at 12:17pm
TomT -

I agree with you about this being suitable for message-board "garage business."  It's kind of like those "Bungee-Dealee Bobs" made & marketed by a fellow on one of the other canoeing message boards.  You just KNOW folks have been making variations of those things at home a lot longer than he has been selling them.   Nevertheless, kudos to him as HE saw the niche market, went after it and is making a few bucks on them.

I could see this fire-starter product going the same route.  I, for one, would surely buy one versus going to the all the trouble of procuring materials and then putting it together... which is exactly what I tried to do yesterday.  I limited myself to what I could find in my garage... which wasn't everything I needed.  I simply wasn't motivated enough to get in the car & head to the hardware store to pick up the rest. Besides, carrying a baggie filled with dryer lint and/or Coughlan's fire-starters hasn't been all that burdensome in the past.

On the other hand, this would be a neat, space & time conserving option if I could simply buy it on-line somewhere or at CanoeCopia booth (like those Bungee-Dealee Bobs).  Would I buy one that was reasonably priced?  You bet.

Jimbo   8-)

Title: Re: DIY Braided Jute/Wax Firetube
Post by TomT on Apr 12th, 2017 at 5:00pm
Thanks Jimbo. We must have great minds that are also unmotivated.   :)
So, all we need is an enterprising entrepreneurial person to take care of us slackers.

Title: Re: DIY Braided Jute/Wax Firetube
Post by Jimbo on Apr 12th, 2017 at 5:56pm

TomT wrote on Apr 12th, 2017 at 5:00pm:
Thanks Jimbo. We must have great minds that are also unmotivated.   :)
So, all we need is an enterprising entrepreneurial person to take care of us slackers.


That pretty well sizes it up for me!

Jimbo   8-)

Title: Re: DIY Braided Jute/Wax Firetube
Post by MuleLars on Apr 13th, 2017 at 6:15pm
Here's what we do, Jimbo: We paint the tube pink and market it as Flamingo Flame.

You in?!!  :) ;D

Title: Re: DIY Braided Jute/Wax Firetube
Post by solotripper on Apr 13th, 2017 at 7:01pm

Quote:
We paint the tube pink and market it as Flamingo Flame.


THAT is just so WRONG.  :-? :'( ;D

Title: Re: DIY Braided Jute/Wax Firetube
Post by Jimbo on Apr 13th, 2017 at 7:31pm

MuleLars wrote on Apr 13th, 2017 at 6:15pm:
Here's what we do, Jimbo: We paint the tube pink and market it as Flamingo Flame.

You in?!!  :) ;D


MuleLars, you marketing genius, you!  By screwing around in the HR world you have truly missed your calling!

Am I in?  Geez, I'm even prepared to throw in a matching Pink Wind Sail with every "Flamingo Flame" that I expect we will sell!

Jimbo   8-)

Title: Re: DIY Braided Jute/Wax Firetube
Post by db on Apr 13th, 2017 at 9:05pm
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Title: Re: DIY Braided Jute/Wax Firetube
Post by solotripper on Apr 13th, 2017 at 9:06pm

Quote:
Am I in?  Geez, I'm even prepared to throw in a matching Pink Wind Sail with every "Flamingo Flame" that I expect we will sell!

Jimbo   Cool


WHY stop there ;)
Make it a 3Fer and include OS's PINK FLAMINGO Stew recipe. ::)

Order in BULK, you get some PINK Pepto-Bismol tabs to keep it ALL down.  :P ;D ;D

Title: Re: DIY Braided Jute/Wax Firetube
Post by gymcoachdon on Apr 14th, 2017 at 2:42am
If anyone is interested, I bought supplies to make one for myself, and will have enough to make a few more.  I may finish it up tomorrow, or I may go paddle.  (paddling is preferred)

Title: Re: DIY Braided Jute/Wax Firetube
Post by solopaddler on Apr 22nd, 2017 at 11:22am
Well, you inspired me to make one yesterday. Great idea, thanks!

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