Kerry wrote on Jul 31^st, 2017 at 5:17pm:

BillConner wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 11:45am: TomT wrote on Jul 30th, 2017 at 12:46pm: Solus wrote on Jul 30th, 2017 at 2:11am: Since they are preexistent one can certainly move with grace and concentration in order to hang a water bag. I love this line.  ;D  I'll take a nail over grafitti anyday.  How old does grafitti have to be before it's a pictogragh? Bill, that's a joke, right?

It's a philosophical question. At Philmont, they have decided if something has been the way it is for 50 years it's historical and should remain.  I think it's interesting that we can despise a dry laid stone chair built by humans in the last few years but revere a painting on a rock by humans several 100 years ago. Are the metal remnants from the logging historic artifacts or trash violating LNT? Would a rock structure from logging era be ok but one from 10 years ago not be? I like the Philmont policy as being at least clear.

I try not to leave any trace, and carry out other people's trash if feasible. I don't stack stones except an occasional one around a fire pit, but am not bothered by and actually enjoy what some have built. And I like the several hundred year old grafitti.