No, that's fine. BillConner answered my question and the photo links gave me a better sense of the challenges. The year I went up there as a solo, there were REALLY high snow melts (2014?) and so the runoff had really jacked up the rivers with high GPMs. On top of all of that, it was raining, so I took the "Gons" over to Cullen and hung out there.

I still want to go back--probably not this year-- that one stretch of water has always bugged me. Of course, if you have any doubts, DON'T talk to Janice!  ;D ;D ;D She scared the BEGEEZUS out of me with your tale of getting washed over the falls (I think it was Canyon but it could of been Koko Falls).  :o