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Jan 3rd, 2005 at 3:25am
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I've been kickin' an idea around in my head, and have now knocked myself senseless and would like to ask for input from the gang.
My group of paddling partners has diminished over the years... (It's hard to keep this snoring thing secret). I thought about where to find people I might be able to team up with, and what better place could there be than this.  ???
Then I started to think about the questions that need to be asked to find out if you are on the same sheet of music with a potential new partner. Here is where I'd like to ask for your input....

What information would you want to know about someone before you agree to adventure with them?

I think it'd be great to put together a list of questions, and use those to set up a kind of "paddling profile". Maybe even set up a section on the board where those who choose could submit profiles and that could be a place to start the search for new partners...

Tripper

Ok... Here's a start on the list of questions:

Do you have earplugs?  Grin
  
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Hey Tripper, I like the idea of paddling profiles. I have more time and motivation than my usual paddling partners and will always be interested in forming another "team".
I think partners who are compatible (always bring earplugs) and complementary (I like bow-you like stern) have a good chance at a successful trip.
Perhaps a very revealing question/dialogue could be "tell me about your worst vacation and what made it so bad".
  
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Hey Tripper!

Here's a few "compatibility" questions:

1.  Ground tarp inside or outside?
2.  Hang pack or put it under canoe?
3.  Paddle like hell or glide?
4.  Fish or explore?
5.  Portage or shortcut?
6.  Trout or walleye?
7.  Fry or bake?
8.  Sit around campfire all night OR wake at crack of dawn? (or both)
9.  Alcohol or no alcohol?
10. Single portage (travel light) or triple portage (pack chairs & things of comfort)

Is this the sort of thing you had in mind?

Jimbo   8)

PS.  Rumors of your snoring have been vastly exaggerated, though I WILL note a certain shortage of small forest creatures in the general vicinity of your tent....

PPS.  Shamefully, I admit that I put my solo camp in jeopardy last Autumn with my OWN snoring during the moose rut season.  Tracks all over the place when I woke up.
  
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This is a good start at a questionaire.  I would add that the respondant should prioritize their responses.  In other words, not only do I like the stern, but it's my #1 priority, all the way down to, fry rather than bake, but it's the least important of the choices.  Just a thought.
  
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Here's a few more questions:

base camp or keep moving?

cook breakfast or breakfast bars?

BWCA or Q?

Outfitter or self-outfit?


some non either-or questions:

Where do you live?

How long do you go out?

  
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All good questions Tripper. I also have been accused of snoring. I provide earplugs for all. I also wear them because I've heard snoring-not my own. While you are not likely to find complete agreement, you may find compatibility! Smiley Smiley 8) 8)
  
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This is a good start at a questionaire.  I would add that the respondant should prioritize their responses.  In other words, not only do I like the stern, but it's my #1 priority, all the way down to, fry rather than bake, but it's the least important of the choices.  Just a thought.

Rather than prioritize put it on a "continum" score. For instance, paddling position may be from 1 - 10 where 1 is, "I will only paddle bow", 10 is "I will only paddle stern", and 5 is "It doesn't matter".  So a score of 8 may mean, "I really prefer the stern but if you are totally insistant that you paddle stern, I will paddle bow rather than not go."  Or Hang vs Hide the food pack -- a 4 may mean, "I like to hang my food, but if you feel strongly about hiding it ... OK, I think you're wrong, but I'll be flexible in this regard in order to make the trip work.
  
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Reply #7 - Jan 3rd, 2005 at 8:55pm
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even better idea, bannock.  same intent, but much better execution...
  
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Good questions.
There's alot involved with the mechanics of canoe camping....
What to bring? How much of it? How to pack it? How to get it over the portages?  Shocked
Most of the folks who use this site aren't 1st timers, and even though most of us aren't veterans, we have developed some routines... styles... etc. I like the idea of rating or "weighting" the importance of the different aspects. We're all going to have our "10's", and I think that gets to the heart of the matter... finding those areas where the 10's either mesh or bang heads.  8)
Carry on...
  
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Don't forget the personal interest questions.   I think I could put up with many tripping styles but personality would make the big difference for me.  For example, I don't like being with people that talk loudly or too softly; or, people that talk about themselves all the time.   I can think of a good number of other questions but don't want to get into a laundry list of personality related questions.  Another area might be on environmental impact.  I know someone that is really bugged if anyone uses biodegradable soap in the lake or burns plastic in the fire pit. 

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Availability ??  How often is a person able to go.

Season ??  Preference for Spring/Summer/Fall.

Swimmer or non swimmer ??

Otherwise the forums already provide clues to the style of trips and activities valued by members.  If you're more of a quiet type of paddler who doesn't say much (like yellowbird)  Roll Eyes, then consider responding to threads which interest you or maybe add a trip report from the past.  Its a great way to introduce yourself to a potential future paddling companion.

Tripper, I have earplugs.

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Mal... I agree that the "personality factor" is a big thing. Group dynamics are one of the biggies for marking the success/failure of any trip. So... one consideration is the SIZE of the group you are traveling with. If you have a group of 3 looking for a 4th it's alot different than a single looking for a 2nd. I mean, if you have other people you are use to tripping with, it's less risky to bring along an unfamiliar face. If that new member isn't up to the standards of the rest of the group it's alot easier for the group to "absorb" the problem.... You can alternate paddling/fishing partners, and there are more alternatives for sharing camp chores, etc. When it's a twosome, you're alot more likely to get in each others face. LOL.  Roll Eyes
Yellowbird also brings up a good point about reading past posts. If someone makes a post that catches your eye, you can look back at their other posts and get a pretty good idea of who you're dealing with.
I just caught the number of members on qj.... over 450. Wow. I would hazard a guess that half of that number will be tripping with someone new in the foreseeable future, either by choice or by necessity. Maybe half of those will be looking for a partner with experience in the Q or BW. Well.... that's over 100 people. I suppose it would be overly optimistic to expect that more than 1 in 10 of those would be on the same sheet of music in the important areas. But... that still leaves a healthy number of folks to get to know a little better.
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I guess I'd only ask three questions of someone who has never been on a trip:

When you see something that needs to be done, do you tend to step up and do it, or wait for someone else to take care of it?

Do you complain about the weather, or do you buy the right clothing to deal with it?

Do you enjoy the feeling of total and complete exhaustion? (hmm . . . maybe this is the only one I would need to ask)

I figure the rest would take care of itself.  Granted, I've never tripped with somone I do not know well.

  
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CJ -

Bravo!  Bravo!!  When do WE leave?!!

Also, Tripper has made a good point about following a potential paddling partner's posts.  That's what got me in the canoe with HIM, anyway.  I was the big winner on that arrangement, learning more from him in one short trip than on several trips where I was the "most experienced" party member. 

Hey, one other thought.  To calm the fears of spouses & other relatives [who can race to conclusions like:"What!!  You're headed into the wilderness with someone you DON'T KNOW and might be a hatchet-murdering Internet Maniac!"], I recommend at least a brief face-to-face meeting to talk things over.

That's how Tripper did it, anyway... and he STILL let me come along!!

Jimbo   8)
  
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For you, Jimbo, I'd have to add one more question: 

Which direction do you face when sitting in the bow seat?

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Grin Grin Grin Depends on which way the pink flamingos are headed!! eh Jimbo?? Grin Grin Grin
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CJ -

Well, ONCE upon a time, that direction was "up".

You see, there was this former paddling partner of mine who "dared" me to stand on my head going down the rapids....

Jimbo   8)
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Surely we can come up with ADDITIONAL criteria for the selection of paddling partners??   Jimbo   8)
  
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Depends on which way the pink flamingos are headed!!

I thought flamingos fly down to Bush Gardens for the winter? No Jimbo, I don't think it wasn't a halloween pransker who stole them from your front lawn . . . they will be back in the spring.

Personality types:
Counselor Dr. Gary Smalley has grouped personalities into four basic types.

The Lion
Likes control, Confident, Firm, Strong willed, Independent

The Otter
Enthusiastic, Fun loving, Takes risks, Friendly

The Golden Retriever
Sensitive, Calm, Thoughtful, Patient, Loyal

The Beaver
Consistent, Practical, Perfectionist, Scheduled

We all have one of these as a primary personality with lesser percentage of at least two others.  Each has strengh and weakness.  The Beaver is fitting to me, the Otter to my wife.  Seems to be working.   Smiley

All said, I think the best of matched canoe partners are going to get on each others nerves by the end of the week.  Make allowance for it.  Adversity will show you what the other guy is made of.

-YB

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  I have been on a trip with old_salt before... albeit not in the same canoe....  We shared the same campsite Grin Grin and if I remember correctly he did make a little noise at night Wink Wink  not enough to keep me awake or anything... I was worn out from catching vast numbers of walleye, northern, and the sacred smallmouth bass...  Grin Grin Grin
   I have had three different partners on three different trips... and I am pretty well stuck with the partner I had last year... and although she snores just a little, she is a good paddler and since we just got married I had better keep taking her as long as she wants to go... Although next trip I will have to put her in the stern in a different canoe with one of the kids in the bow, while I take another one with me... We have 4 newbies to break in next June Shocked Shocked Shocked  It's going to be fun  I know...
   But, If I were looking for someone to go with me on a special guys trip, I would have to asked them the three improtant questions that forms the basis of all serious relationships.  Do you love to fish?  Do you love to fish?  Do you love to fish? and I guess I would have to ask a few of the others too that you guys have come up with...Wink Wink  

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And in relation to what Yellowbird posted above... I am a combination of the Golden Retriever and the Otter
  
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Also, Tripper has made a good point about following a potential paddling partner's posts.  That's what got me in the canoe with HIM, anyway.

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I recommend at least a brief face-to-face meeting to talk things over.

That's how Tripper did it, anyway... and he STILL let me come along!!

Jimbo   8)


Jimbo --

Hmmmm.  ... and now Tripper is looking for another paddling partner ... Maybe the trip wasn't as successful as you thought!!   Grin LOL

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Let's see now 2+2=___
Grin Grin Wink Wink
  
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Well, if you beggars INSIST, I suppose I MUST tell you the REAL scoop.  You see, it's kind of like your archetypical sad "canoeist's triangle" story....

So there we were.  Tripper & I were doin' seemingly just fine on our five day basecamp "honeymoon" Autumn trip into western Beaverhouse.  We even brought in luxuries like CHAIRS for crying out loud!  We were comfortable, nailing Smallies on the Quetico River, & doing wonderful - well, ok, so maybe now I admit I suck as a bow paddler - but, other than that, things were just peachy.  

THEN - you guessed it - ALONG COMES this dude... db.  

Good ole db comes stumbling along - seemingly lost - on our 2nd or 3rd day, right there at the 1st set of rapids on the Quetico River.  Looking back now, I can see he had "eyes" for Tripper from the very beginning.  This intruder/usurper concocted a story of woe, involving wind & waves & rain.  THEN, as our hearts are going out to him, he invites himself into OUR camp.  And well, you see... it's like this. Good ole db cooks up a pretty darn good canoe country cheesecake, he hangs a fancy bear rope rig, he flaunts curvacious rubber bumpers on the front of his canoe, and he ties elegant knots, too.  Yikes!!  

I mean, how is a guy like ME going to compete with all this?!?

And THAT's all she wrote, my friends!  Guess WHO Tripper subsequently tripped with henceforth???  Just you ask THEM about the soft Moonlight on the wide northern vista of THEIR McKenzie Lake campsite!  One of the heartless fiends even sent me a picture of said campsite - a memento from their tryst - only yesterday!!

So, here I am... forsaken, jilted, scorned, belittled, & left wallowing in my grief. Sadly, I now find myself working on my own cheesecake recipes.  Yes, I have even asked db how he ties his fancy knots - such as he advertises FOR SALE in a "How-To" kit on his website - BUT he won't show me or sell them to ME!  Strangely enough, "there are none left", says he.  Ha!!! Sure, likely story!  And, NOW, now I have even gone so far as to pay the exorbitant price demanded by the Boundary Waters Journal just so I can attach food packs to MY OWN fancy bear rope rig.  Next step? Rubber bumpers for my canoe, I suppose.

Just my luck... being left for a younger paddling partner who has bigger rubber bumpers than I have.

Can you believe it??  The HUMILIATION of it all!!!

So... please let my sad tale of woe serve as a word of warning to everyone.  BEWARE!  Beware of all of the come-along "would-be" paddling partners out there who constantly design & scheme to snatch that very special someone whose paddle sings with yours in the making of sweet canoe music.

There you have it, the REAL scoop... a veritable Quiet Journey Peyton Place.

Jilted Jimbo   8)  
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I have no response for that...   Lips Sealed, but there may be potential for a future thread --- "jilted again".

So, my challenge for tonight has been another brain teaser... If I could ask only ONE question of a potential partner, what would it be? hmmmmm.

Here's mine...
We are traveling as a twosome in a remote area. Let's say it is one travel day to an area that might have other campers, and two travel days to a ranger station. We are halfway over a nasty portage and I take the big fall. I am unconscious with unknown injuries... (actually, this is not much different from my normal condition  Roll Eyes ).

What are you going to do?
  
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So, here I am... forsaken, jilted, scorned, belittled, & left wallowing in my grief

Watch out for those "rebound" relationships Jimbo. Too easy to put yourself through the same or worse. Cry
  
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Jilted J,
You just might have that Golden Retriever personality. But as the song goes, "You can't keep a good dog down". You might consider lifting your leg to the entire matter.

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We are halfway over a nasty portage and I take the big fall. I am unconscious with unknown injuries...What are you going to do?
Trip, I would tend to your first aid needs, set up camp on the spot, get you into the tent and make you as comfortable as possible, then go for water, purify a couple of gallons for you, leave with you the tylenol and the remainder of the gorp, then I would take only the necessities with me, my fishing rod and trolling rig. Hopefully another group will take me in to finish out the week.
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I tell you what... The reading on thsi web site is so much better than any novel Grin Grin Grin  Whether it be a romance or adventure...  What comes next in the Q or BW ??? ??? ???  The rest of us tremble with anticipation Shocked Shocked Shocked

Thanks I needed a good laugh on a Friday Wink Wink

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We are traveling as a twosome in a remote area. Let's say it is one travel day to an area that might have other campers, and two travel days to a ranger station. We are halfway over a nasty portage and I take the big fall. I am unconscious with unknown injuries... (actually, this is not much different from my normal condition  Roll Eyes ).

What are you going to do?


Since it is against park regulations to leave you on the
portage (feeding wildlife), I would pick you up and finish the
portage. Then at the water's edge, I would collect some
rocks and rope and do the Deliverance thing...

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Hmmmm... what a question for ME to answer!  What am I going to do???  Eh, Tripper?

You mean AFTER the bears & wolves are done, & the ravens are through picking away at what remains?  Hmmm??

Could be somebody with nice rubber bumpers on the front of their canoe might come along to perform a proper burial, I suppose....

Jimbo   8)
  
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Then at the water's edge, I would collect some rocks and rope and do the Deliverance thing...

AJ,
Would make a great place to refresh the supply of leeches in case you're running a little short. Tie a tag line around his ankles for retrieval and anchor to shore. Just watch your fingers, you might pull up a snapper at the same time.  And come to think of it, all those crayfish would attract smallmouth.  Tie on a gitzit and do some jigging.
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We are traveling as a twosome in a remote area. Let's say it is one travel day to an area that might have other campers, and two travel days to a ranger station. We are halfway over a nasty portage and I take the big fall. I am unconscious with unknown injuries... (actually, this is not much different from my normal condition  Roll Eyes ).

What are you going to do?


Hopefully I packed some Fava Beans and a nice Cabernay.
  
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I just want to know.... where do you guys get your material? This is some great stuff.  8)
So, when you stumble across my carcass on the way in to the jamboree I'd appreciate the following:
Jimbo... maybe you could "read over me"... Just don't overdo it.
PJ... How about a rendition of Amazing Grace on the pipes.
A moment of silence and a pull on the jug before you divvy up my gear.
p.s.   -- save something for Stumpy.  Grin

I've got a different angle to think about in the partner search...
Expectations. We EXPECT that our partners are going to do certain things, and NOT do certain things. I guess alot of this comes from past experiences/partners.
Give some thought to the things you expect


  
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I think you all left out the most important question of all.  What is your sex?
And depending on that answer (and whether or not you are married), then there could be a whole bunch of other questions to ask? Grin Grin Grin Grin
  
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Reply #33 - Jan 10th, 2005 at 9:02am
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Hey Jimbo, you know the old saying. If you love someone let them go...

While it is true I used him up and tossed him aside - I saw no ring and he made the first move.

Seriously - Our trip was something both of us wanted to do sometime and neither of us would consider doing alone. I can't think of anyone I'd have rather gone width. No arguments for what, 20+ days? Not seeing another soul for half of those in a row was nice too. Snoring was an issue at first but I soon found if you hold him close he sleeps like a baby. (You need to Login or Register to view media files and links)

Tripper - To answer your second question: At some point(s) in our trip I considered that two people was not all that much safer than solo at times. On portages, we were doubling the chances of something bad happening. Basically I'd see to your immediate needs while hoping you came to so we could accesses our circumstances and develop a plan. Failing that, considering a party of two and depending on where, I'd favor looking for people who could best help me help you on my way out.

Re: New Year... New Partner:
Tripper and I traded e-mails on this idea and at some point I thought it could best be done in a new forum. That way people can modify things on their own in real time as they saw fit. It would also allow for all the varied answers people might provide.

It could also be used by members who would like to just explain themselves and offer insight into why they believe the things they do OR if they're looking to broaden their horizons by seeing how others make it work.

AND It could also be used by members who knew where and when they'd be interested in a rendezvous for the evening or a day or two.

You do get to know someone by their posts but if you are going to trust and travel with someone you barely know, you will probably trade a laundry list of questions something like this at some point:
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Where do you live?
Approximate number of previous nights spent in the BW/Q - ???>?
What lakes/routes do you know considering where you wanna go?

Your average past trips and/or preferences:
Preferred/Typical party size - ?
Preferred season - ?

What length of trips do you do/available to do:
Difficulty level - ?
Travel or Base - ?
Front or Back? (Hey... wait a minute)
Weight - ??? (Well, great differences would matter in a canoe.)
What hours do you sleep?
How loud do you snore?.... (OOPS)
How much cocktailing?
% of time for fishing
% of time for photography Smiley
Favorite type of fishing?
Fresh or dried foods?
How many fish meals in a trip?

Gear I can add to the mix:
Packs? Canoes? Stoves...?

Availability:
Dates? BWJ/R?

Requirements in a partner/group:

Contact - See links on left...
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None of us seem to be able to follow rules much but most seem to understand the spirit. Answer whatever Q's you want. Skip as many as you want or add your own as you see fit.

I'll add a forum. (In a week or three.) We can find out where it leads together.
  
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Reply #34 - Jan 10th, 2005 at 12:55pm
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Well Tripper, I begin to see how you got your nickname.

To answer your question about being unconscious, it all depends on how long you stayed that way.  If you didn't come-to in a reasonable time, I'd set up a camp as close as possible, and most likely, after checking for broken bones/internal injuries haul the carcass to camp.  If you didn't regain consciousness, I'd use my indian cellphone (smoke signal - 3 distinct columns of smoke - I'd be really surprised if that didn't draw a response from park rangers within 2 or 3 days) to call for help,  and stay with you till you either came-to or went belly up.    Even with a 3rd person, I'd probably do the same.  A group of four is the standard recommended  # for a wilderness trip.  One stays with the injured person, and two go for help - you aren't supposed to send a person for help alone, since if that person got hurt on the way, you are worse off than you started.  A group of 3 or more could probably haul you out to a more accessible location by building  a litter to portage you with.   On the other hand, if you did come-to, and you were injured enough to need an evac, I'd probably still do the smoke signal, and only go for help after 3 days or so. 

As far as looking for a new partner, I think I'd try to shortcut the process by posting the trip I really wanted to take, and asking if anyone else wanted to come along.  Then go to the asking questions bit to see if it might work out.
  
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Re: New Year... New Partner
Reply #35 - Jan 11th, 2005 at 12:43am
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We are traveling as a twosome in a remote area. Let's say it is one travel day to an area that might have other campers, and two travel days to a ranger station. We are halfway over a nasty portage and I take the big fall. I am unconscious with unknown injuries... (actually, this is not much different from my normal condition  Roll Eyes ).

What are you going to do?


Well, I guess that I am going to bite...

The simple, general answer is the same for any emergency
situation: Assess the situation, consider the alternatives,
and act on the best alternative.

You are unconscious, but what else? Are you breathing
regularly or are you in serious respiratory trouble. What
injuries do you have (you may not have fallen on your head).
Can you be moved? Do you need to be moved? What other
conditions are to be considered (weather good or bad, bear
was just sighted on portage, you took all three paddles out
with the fall...). You get the idea.

Some situations cannot be predicted, nor planned for - you
have to react. I believe the same can generally be said for
choosing a tripping partner. A lot depends upon how much
the other person wants to go on the trip. Not many
persons would be able to resist the urge to enhance the
quality of their answers if they really wanted to trip.

I sailed out of Traverse City once on a weekend trip to
Manistee to help a fellow worker get his boat to winter
storage. Before the trip we were polite but not close.
After the trip (and a half dozen knockdowns and a blown out
mainsail) we became friends for life because we were able to
quietly depend upon each other to get out of trouble. The
point is that there was no interview for the part (he
probably would have chosen any number of others with
more sailing experience if he had known bad weather was
ahead). And we all know that boats are boats...paddling,
sailing, motoring - it's all the same.

BTW, how long is a rope?

-aj
  
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Reply #36 - Jan 11th, 2005 at 6:16am
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In the long run, you'll never ask enough questions to KNOW how your styles will blend before you take a trip together.  Undecided We DO know that those who post here enjoy canoeing and camping in a special part of this world, so we are all on the same basic sheet of music. I think we can put together a list of questions that will paint a reasonable picture of the individual goals/styles/methods/etc. of others. Then it will be fun to see where that leads...
  
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Reply #37 - Feb 18th, 2005 at 3:16pm
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big question I would want to know is "are you a complaner?"

Nothing ruins a good paddling trip more then a grown man belly aching like a 11 year old girl "are we there yet? it's too hot, I hate mosquitos, I'm getting a sun burn, this water is warm, this food tastes like kack, I hate portaging..." Angry

This would be the first thing I would want to know about a potential paddeling partner.
  
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Reply #38 - Feb 18th, 2005 at 11:42pm
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My experience has been that the complainers weed themselves out. They certainly are not invited to return.
  
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Reply #39 - Feb 22nd, 2005 at 2:42pm
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Here are a few questions I would consider asking potential trip partners.  They are not the kind of questions that one would normally think of asking but they get at something deeper than technique and tripping style.

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You suddenly find yourself alone in the middle of an unknown city in which you do not speak the language.  You have no money or possessions except for the clothing you are wearing.  What do you do and why?

Name three famous people either living or dead that you would like to meet.  Why?  What would you ask them?

Describe your perfect Saturday.

What are your three favorite TV shows, movies or books and why?

You have a ping-pong ball in the bottom of a cup.  The cup is glued to the table.  You have three rocks, a straw, a stapler a 4x8 sheet of ¾” plywood, a stack of 100 dollar bills, six sheets of paper and a copy of yesterday’s New York Times.  How do you get the ping-pong ball out of the cup?

  
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Reply #40 - Feb 22nd, 2005 at 2:55pm
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You have a ping-pong ball in the bottom of a cup.  The cup is glued to the table.  You have three rocks, a straw, a stapler a 4x8 sheet of ¾” plywood, a stack of 100 dollar bills, six sheets of paper and a copy of yesterday’s New York Times.  How do you get the ping-pong ball out of the cup?


Put the 100 dollar bills in my pocket then take the ping pong ball out of the cup with my fingers.  Smiley
  
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Reply #41 - Feb 22nd, 2005 at 3:00pm
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Put the 100 dollar bills in my pocket then take the ping pong ball out of the cup with my fingers.  Smiley



So,  Mr.  Bannock, tell me about your mother.   Grin Shocked Roll Eyes
  
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So,  Mr.  Bannock, tell me about your mother.   Grin Shocked Roll Eyes


LOL!  I walked into that one!!!  Smiley
  
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