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Reply #10 - Jun 20th, 2005 at 1:21pm
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Appology not required (We still had fun), but accepted.

Thanks,
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Reply #11 - Jun 20th, 2005 at 2:48pm
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Hex -

Congratulations to you & your group on reaching the interior lake!  It seems your Kawnipi approach was best or at least more sane than the Cairn Lake approach. 

Had Ben & I gotten in a day earlier, we would have circled around to Kawnipi to try to get in that way.  Originally, we planned to reach Cairn on Monday evening & check out it, then, going in on Tuesday morning, if possible.  If not, we would move over to Kawnipi at midday.  However, we got bogged down & slowed up along Cutty Creek & didn't even arrive on Cairn until Tuesday afternoon.  Then, the sight of those wet cliffs & the rugged terrain from OUR Cairn vantage point stopped me cold, even though Wednesday morning's bright sunshine held out some promise.

Hex, I'm curious... why was your first choice the Kawnipi route?  Had you been there before?

Stumpy -

You know better than I do... you take only what current Park & group conditions allow you to take.  To go for more is sometimes not very smart.  As leader, you have to make decisions in the best interest of your overall party.  I am SURE your choice was the wise & best one possible under the circumstances.  As you know, ten years ago my wild man brother & I did something VERY stupid under MY leadership.  We went for the "glory", so to speak & got VERY lucky in that we did not suffer a major mishap.  It could have turned out QUITE different.

I play it a little more conservative these days.  This is less exciting for my son, I suppose, but "excitement" experienced while being strapped down on the inside of an emergency medical evacuation helicopter is something I wish to avoid.  As I return to my office this morning, I am hearing a horror story about 2 local canoe campers who nearly experienced a fatal mishap while paddling in another part of remote Canada last week.  One guy went unconscious for two days as a result of a bad infection & had to be moved paddled out by the other (a kid) until some help was found.

I'll pass on that kind of experience, thanks.

Peace of mind goes well with the Peace of Nature in my book.

Having said all that, however, I must confess something.  A really stubborn part of me wishes I had followed Hex into the Bush....

Later,

Jimbo   8)
  
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Reply #12 - Jun 20th, 2005 at 2:59pm
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Wow!  What an effort.  While everyone was gone, I kept anticipating some exciting trip reports and tall tales upon your return.  This, however, is more exciting and interesting than I could have imagined.  It is wonderful to know that the Quetico is still wilderness country.  This is why we love it so much!

Keep the stories coming.  Everyone should feel proud!!!!

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Reply #13 - Jun 20th, 2005 at 3:02pm
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Jimbo, no, we had never been there before.  This was only our second trip into the Q (many BW trips), and first to Kawnipi.  We chose the route from Kawnipi for a couple of reasons.  Foremost, simply because we figured most people would come in from Cairn or from the north and we didn't want to follow others' paths or run into anyone on the way.  Also, last year, we went up Kahshapiwi and through Cairn and we try not to cover old tracks from year to year.  Finally, the climb and the reliance on orienteering across those hilltops, rather than follow streambeds, seemed a bit more exciting.

Orinigally, I suggested we enter from the south, via Williams, but we chose to use that as our way out into the S-chain to head back home after Hexnymph suggested coming in from the east via Kawnipi.  The way out was definitely more challenging than the way in, with longer bushwacks and bogwalking.  From Kawnipi, the climb up the hill was a real challenge, but the paddling 'breaks' and the hilltops were a nice respite from our previous bushwacking trips, which were more like the southern route - crash crash crash, slosh slosh slosh, climb, stumble, duck, curse, rejoice!

I did indeed take pictures of Stumpy/Sucker lake and will post tonight or tomorrow with more details.





  
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Reply #14 - Jun 20th, 2005 at 10:33pm
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Jimbo,
We did just what pghportager said in our decision making.

Stumpy (Ed),
Did you make the trek into Swartman lake?  If so, how are the pictos?

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Reply #15 - Jun 21st, 2005 at 12:28am
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Crazy Ed, Range Line, to those that made it to Stumpy’s Pond and those who made it as far as the Soggy Jimboree.  All apologies set aside; didn’t we at least “try” to attempt something grand?

I feel I made many mistakes, but I learned.  1st of all I thought I could keep up with the likes of the adventurous spirit of QP backed by the muscle of WW, in a tandem with my solo prism.  (Plain Dumb)  I should have rode in the middle with them and gave them the day I probably robbed them of.   Second, I was cheap and didn’t have my Beans resoled though much needed.  After a hard fall on a sloped rock that could just as well broke my back I was cautious on rock peaks the rest of the trip while WW and QP walked as if carpenters walking the ridge of a wall in a newly framed home. Intrepid, of course, never showed any fear.

No doubt the outcome wasn’t all I hoped for, but I’m far from disappointed in the adventure granted.  Hat’s off Stumpers.  Whether you realize it or not you brought people with like interests together.  Now if I could just get over this concussion. Perhaps my head did hit that rock when I fell after all.      
  
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Reply #16 - Jun 21st, 2005 at 1:57am
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Pics of Stumpy Lake aka Sucker Lake-

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Towards the north shore from our south shore campsite.  Up to the end of the channel and to the left/west is a bog/tamarack area that leads out towards the northern arm of the creek to Cairn.  The treeline of the creek valley was visible from the tip of the lake.  I should have taken a picture of that, but we were looking for fish with our gear back at camp.

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Towards the east shore of the lake from the south shore.  all of the lakes we went through on our way from Kawnipi to Stumpy lake had low, rounded rock/boulder shorelines.

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Same view of the eastern shore near sunset.



  
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Reply #17 - Jun 21st, 2005 at 2:43am
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Nice pictures, pghportager!  Funny, somehow I pictured Stumpy Lake as dark and forbidding.  But it looks durned purty!  Now that I know how to get there and there is a fire ring with log seating . . . may just have to visit in September.

I admire all you who headed in that direction.  And Stumpy for kindling the imagination.  During the last year I have given a lot of thought to venturing into back corners of Quetico where there are no portages and look forward to giving that a try.  Thanks for that inspiration!  In my opinion (which is admittedly compromised by the fact that my ass had been firmly planted in air-conditioned boredom all month), neither apologies nor humbleness is appropriate for anyone involved.  And:  I'll be there in 2010!

In the meantime, I am literally begging everyone involved for more details, reports, and pictures.  Hey, Intrepid Camper, where is your report?
  
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Reply #18 - Jun 21st, 2005 at 3:58am
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Great pictures Pghportager,
That shoreline in the second photo is where I had hoped to have the gathering...my nephew exclaimed "You could fit a lodge there!".

Make no mistake about it folks, Hex and gang took the tougher and more adventurous way in. That's the way I had planned to go in this time...thinking no one else would "back door" it. I had planned to camp Tuesday night on that first lake 200 feet up off of Kawnipi. We actually got out of our canoe and stood next to Hex's canoes late Tuesday afternoon. The weather and hoped for surprise aproach made me decide to move on.

3 years ago I carried my grumman standard to the bushwhack lake from the Cairn lake creek, and made it in about 40 minutes. That was when I saw it was a good lake for the event.
So I thought "no problem" going in that way this time.
We had packed a heavey camp....all the ussual gear, depth finder, steaks, bacon & egg breakfasts...etc...  So I thought the short route would be smarter.
We started into the forked creek at 1:00 PM Wed. heading to the north fork...but water levels were lower than 3 years ago even with all the rain (there must have been a new beaver dam upstream).
While pulling the Grumman and three packs over log after log while my crew was walking the high ground, I had a paricularly high log to drag over. That's when my lower back went "PING"....getting old !
I tried to ignore it as I was hell bent, and at that point we headed east over the ridges.
We headed in slightly south of where I had crossed 3 years before and I after the bulk of the ridges were crossed I was surprised by a few more smaller ridges which I did'nt recall. This caused uneasiness in my party...plus me in pain the whole way.
I'm sure now, we were at least 3/4 the way there when one in our party did'nt want to go further. Our water was gone and I agreed to head back to the safety of Cairn. The group must stay together !

NOBODY on this board was more let down by this than I. I still can't get over being a no-show at the BWR 2005.

I had carried the food pack and Grumman standard weight, to that point...my nephew helped me out, carrying the food pack, back to Cairn.
Young children at home, weighed heavily on our minds when we accepted turning back.
The next day, my nephew Tim and I hiked in and saw how close we had come. We built 2 rock Cairns on the east shore, took a panaramic photo, yelled out for Jimbo, QP, K, WW, said a prayer that no one was "stuck" out there and headed back.

2 days later, on Cutty lake, Rangeline sunk 2 treble hooks (4 barbed hooks total) deep in his the back of his head. I cut the lure free and poured gin (which I had brought with for the Jamboree guys...I don't touch the stuff) over it.
We broke camp on Cutty that day (Saturday) at 12:20 PM and pulled up at Prairie Portage with all our gear at 11:10 PM....33 miles and 16 portages in 10 hours and 50 minutes, all against tough wind, which did'nt even let up in the dark. The moon helped us.
We had run across scouts on North Bay who radioed ahead for us for a tow from Williams & Hall. He was in the Ely hospital by 12:30 AM, and is doing fine.

I do so hope to meet you all at a plattyfest one day.

Congratulations again to Hex and gang...and a gutsy route out of Bushwhack lake also !

Thanks again to all of you....my friends......Ed
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Reply #19 - Jun 21st, 2005 at 2:03pm
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HoHo, my report is coming, I am sorting out my notes and typing it up to post.  Thanks to all who started the plan and tried the plan, best and most interesting canoe trip I have had in a long time.  Really liked meeting everyone and they are all wonderfull guys...we need more adventurous women next time!  Great to hear the reports of all who made it and made it out...I had thought to go in from Williams, but glad to read about it instead of having to do it.  QP, WW and K all went back via YumYum portage so I also got second hand details (enough to make me glad I didn't try it) on that portage too.  IC
  
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