As for Chemistry 101....If they're whining about the portages, over coffee and maps at the kitchen table.....RUN AWAY !!

No apology is necesary, TTC.
I don't think I have mentioned not wanting to discuss that situation, on this forum, heretofore (always have wanted to use that word  8)).

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Behest there a dictionary from whence this comes, for it is not in thine ?

Trip number two into Quetico is the one I always think of when someone new wants to make a trip with me. 
Lets see trip number two was suppost to be of just me and my father inlaw.  He loved to camp and was very good at it.  Problem was he wanted to take his Brother Inlaw and his son.  Whom had never been on a Wilderness Trip but had been camping many times. 
We met several times in the 6 months or so of trip planning.  They seemed like good guys I couldn't find anything that threw up a red flag.  So I agreed. 
It was a simple trip up the Man chain looping out Agnes. 
We had 8 full days to do the trip and they understood the route and planned lakes to be on each day. 
Day one went without a conflict.
Day two however got very heated.
We were on our way to No Man when the Brother Inlaw said.  Why are we looping I want to just say here all week then paddle out.  I ask him why, and he said it was to much work and he was done as in not going any farther.  I told him that the loop had been planned and we had all agreed to do it.  Which after a vote he was the only one not wanting to move on.
I sugested we go ahead to Other Man for the night fish some and still try to work the loop in.  He threw his pack down in the middle of the portage said NO I'm not going any farther.  After trying several times (taking the nice guy route with him), I saw it was going no where.  So I looked him in the eye any very calmly said.  Look do you think you can find your way out of here?  He said no as I was the leader.
I said BINGO, and the leader is heading this way.  If your coming fine if your not then even better.
As for the snoreing, I still have this visual of this guy sleeping in a pup tent, feet out one end and head barely in the tent on the other, I'll add it had no floor. It wouldn't have matered if I had been on the other side of the lake I would have still heard him. 
Snoring partners are very simple to take care of, if you ever look in the back pouch of my first aide kit you'll find my handy dandy ear plugs.  Only ever used them one other time on a trip.  But each trip I take, I make sure I packed a new set.
I did finally agree to base camping on Other Man that trip.  But I took a full day heading somewhere each day offering to them,  a welcome go but explaining it would be a difficult day and if he chose to stay and fish my feelings wouldn't be hurt at all.  I also told him if we all day trip we take all the gear just in case we decide to camp on another lake..  I think he was afraid I'd keep him moving in the direction of the loop (likely so).
Pup Tents how fitting for him!  Lucky for me it didn't rain that trip, if it had, I would have had to kept the plugs in all day as well.
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I am also blessed with a dependable paddling partner, my husband.  Unfortunately for me, he has sleep apnea.  He sleeps at home with a breathing machine and it is a big help for him, as well as for me, to get a good night's sleep.

In a tent in the wilderness his snoring could keep the critters awake for miles around.  While it makes me a bit uncomfortable to use the ear plugs (I would never hear a marauding bear, and would probably miss the footsteps of the moose who comes to breakfast), it is necessary.  You can't paddle and portage with no sleep!

But I cannot imagine canoe tripping with anyone else!