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Re: Canoe Trailer
Reply #30 - Apr 11th, 2009 at 1:17pm
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Hey prouboy nice looking trailer. Make sure you check the bearings on that 32 year old trailer. Hate to see thousands of dollars worth of canoe equipment go up in smoke. It can happen.
  
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Re: Canoe Trailer
Reply #31 - Apr 11th, 2009 at 3:20pm
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What KF said!
I bet bearing failure is the #1 cause of most trailer breakdowns Wink
Many people only use them locally, the bearings don't really get a chance to heat up. A long drive at highway speeds is another matter.
Best bet if you haven't already, is to pull wheels, grease/check bearings, and maybe spring for a Bearing Buddy or similar item.
Every deer season, I-75 is littered here in MI with camp trailers that lost a wheel or seized up and overturned due to bearing failure.
  
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Reply #32 - Apr 11th, 2009 at 8:09pm
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Bought a Dodge Pickup Bed Trailer!  Scored Big Time :exclamation

80 Bucks!  I about fell over... of course in need of some minor repairs. a left blinker light, a new set of tires and rims that I'm picking up from the junkyard.  Need to bolt on the old heavy duty currently loose bumper.  Put in a few extra bolts to secure the bed to the frame, and grease up the rear end.  I think I'll be into it just under $200 before tax and license.  Will be great for hauling wood and stuff as well, as needed.

Needs paint, Ugly, Rusty, Old... who cares!

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Whoo.... Hooo  Smiley
  
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Re: Canoe Trailer
Reply #33 - Apr 12th, 2009 at 12:53am
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KF an Solotripper -- good thoughts on the bearings.  That trailer has hauled so much over the years...sand, rock, dirt, firewood, refrigerators, my daughter's worldly belonging to college...you name it.   Now it'll be Bells, Wenonahs, and Siouris Rivers along with Duluth Packs. 

As for the lubing, I check/repack the bearings about every 2 years or so, but I've read I'm supposed to do it yearly...what kind of schedule do you guys have on your trailers? 

prouboy
  
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Re: Canoe Trailer
Reply #34 - Apr 12th, 2009 at 1:58am
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Building a canoe trailer doesn't have to be very complicated.

Get a jet ski trailer that holds 2 Jet skis.  Remove the winches.  Now your canoe will rest on the bunks like the jet skis did.  Load the heavy gear in both canoes.  Make a rack to support the other two and attach it to the center of the trailer.  Load the remaining gear in the other canoes.

If you need additional room for gear, weld metal mesh on the floor of the trailer.  Load the gear and bungee cord it down.

You can find one of there trailers, used, at any marine dealer.

This set up works well and really doen't require much modification.
  
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Re: Canoe Trailer
Reply #35 - Apr 12th, 2009 at 5:49pm
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Puckster wrote on Apr 12th, 2009 at 12:53am:
As for the lubing, I check/repack the bearings about every 2 years or so, but I've read I'm supposed to do it yearly...what kind of schedule do you guys have on your trailers?  

prouboy


This depends on how often it's used, the number of miles you put on, where the trailer is stored and the overall age of the bearings. If bearings were 32 years old I would check them before every long trip.
Bearing buddies are worth the cost and effort to install if the trailer is used alot, say thousands of miles per year, and/or if it gets dunked in water like a boat trailer.

Also a good idea to feel the the hubs at every gas stop to check for heat.
  
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Re: Canoe Trailer
Reply #36 - Apr 12th, 2009 at 10:12pm
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 Assuming the Bearings are 32 years old, I think I'd replace them with a new set, and add the Bearing Buddy or similar system.
 Even if your lubing the bearings on a regular basis, that's a long time on the same set of bearings? Bearing failure is often sudden and depending on how well they were packed, they can suffer wear that you won't realize until it's too late Cry
 A few bucks spend now, will give you peace of mind for the rest of the old trailers re-birth.
 Losing a wheel and suffering a rollover with a couple of canoes or more plus other gear, your looking at thousands of dollars in damages/losses.
 New bearings/grease system will seem like a bargain then.
  
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Re: Canoe Trailer
Reply #37 - Apr 13th, 2009 at 11:08am
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One item I have not seen mentioned is how far out the back of the trailer the canoes stick out. I checked with the sheriff’s department some years ago about how far a load can extend out the back of a vehicle / trailer.  Their answer was something along the lines of any more than three feet beyond the furthest back lights (probably brake lights) and it needed to have a red flag attached. Seemed pretty simple, but also quite useless if it is after dark. Don’t know if anyone has ever had problems with this; just something for consideration.


Also, ditto on the frequent bearing maintenance, as well as checking them at the stops for any heat buildup. Pretty cheap insurance. And while you are at it, stop and check / retighten those lug nuts after about the first 15 – 20 miles or so. (Don’t ask)
  
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Re: Canoe Trailer
Reply #38 - Apr 13th, 2009 at 4:16pm
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 AT one time, Cabelas AUTO/TRUCK catalog offered a clip on LED strobe running light to replace the red flag on extended loads at night.
Might be a good investment IF your hauling canoes at night with a smaller vehicle/trailer.
 G01, I worked with commercial trailers for a dozen or so years in the building trades. Besides the bearing issue, it was amazing how many times people lost a wheel due to "tight" lug nuts coming off Huh
 Culprit was usually the person who mounted the wheel, NOT crisscrossing the lug pattern as they tightened the lug nuts.
 If you go in a circular motion, you risk the wheel not being tighten flush with the drum. AFTER X amount of miles you get a wobble and eventually lose a wheel, or break off the lug bolts Cry
  
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Re: Canoe Trailer
Reply #39 - Apr 13th, 2009 at 4:49pm
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I repack and readjust thrust in bearings on my heavy duty trailer every spring. It gets tons of use -sever use-every season-1000's of tons. Be sure to use a good quality old fashion Li grease-the super sticky stuff-I have had a horrible experiences with synthetics so they have lost my vote in this application....forever! I would also replace the 32 year old bearings and dont forget the races and grease seals. Also remember to hand pack the bearing cartridges when they are brand new-very important! Removing the races and seals should not be a big deal on a utility trailer-hammer and bronze punch/hardwood block works good...not the same at all on a truck chassy trailer....where the drive axle is used as the axle-these are lubed with gear oil and the bearing/seal configuration is different. Tearing the hub and spindle down will allow you to inspect the condition of the equipment- remember rust and iron oxide scale is harder than the spindle material-it is a great abrasive and can cause a lot of wear and lead to failure and more corrosion-water and dirt is the enemy....  A good auto parts store with be of great assistant in in these process-along with a mic and a person that knows how to use it-the spindle must be measured too. I have my own take on the bearing buddy grease covers-I believe if you maintain the trailer properly there is real no need for them...and they do have the tendency to blow the inwale grease seal out if one is over zealous with the grease gun.  I have also found it very useful and important to have a redundant ground on the the trailer-super easy to do when you rewire it-Good luck. And for GOD's sake dont forget to put the receiver pin in! Wink
  
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