10 The River of Doubt (Read 11025 times)
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Reply #10 - Apr 22nd, 2009 at 8:15pm
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There's a Julio in every group of more than two, isn't there? Maybe not willing to go that far but it goes to show you you've got to select your companions wisely. A great read and a historical recount of events I never knew happened. Thanks for the heads up on a great read,

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Reply #11 - Apr 22nd, 2009 at 10:38pm
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I'm reading this book right now also - it's great!   Smiley
  
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Reply #12 - Jun 29th, 2009 at 4:35pm
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I just finished this last night... wow. I guess they knew how to make real men in those days. I spend a lot of time in Roosevelt's North Dakota haunts, but I think I'll pass on the jungle. Poisonous everything and cannibals aren't exactly my cup of tea.

I loved the part about the party abandoning the Canadian canoes, only to spend the rest of the journey wishing they would have kept them...

However, it was sad to read about Kermit's downward spiral, given his strength, intelligence, and richness of experience.
  
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Reply #13 - Jul 7th, 2009 at 10:51am
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Read this one last year, it was good, but I found it to be a difficult read.  I have been to the jungle in Brazil, with the Marubu indian tribe back in 2001 on a mission trip for church.  It helped me to really relate to whole story.  Those are real woods.  It seems everything there is out to kill you.  I got to go fishing in a dugout canoe on the Ituai River which is a tributary of the Amazon.  We had to fly into the tribe in a bush plane.  I got to swim in the river with pirahnas and South American Caymen.Undecided  It was like a National Geographic trip of a lifetime.  Heading back to Manaus Brazil in 2011 to go Peacock Bass fishing on the Amazon.  Can't wait!! Grin
  
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Reply #14 - Jul 18th, 2009 at 1:30pm
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I read "The River of Doubt" last spring.  It was an adventure just reading the book, and you can imagine what it must have been like.  Candice Milllard did a great job bringing the journey to life.  I thoroughly enjoyed Teddy's ways!
  
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Reply #15 - Jan 12th, 2012 at 9:31am
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Thanks, Jimbo
Great read. But I am getting a bit tired of an all to common tread in adventure tales. How over confident and unprepared some people are stepping into their adventures when they knew better. Teddy knew better.

$.02 I'd rather admire a well planned and executed adventure. Or one that overcomes unforeseen hazards.
  
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Reply #16 - Jan 13th, 2012 at 5:55pm
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Jim J -

Yeah, I tend to agree that Teddy should have known better.  He's one of my very favorite presidents but, at that particular juncture of his life, he was struggling with an awful lot of difficult-to-digest change (political & personal) and wasn't handling it all very well.  I think he let his "hope" for a great rejeuvenating adventure and his "need" for accomplishment get ahead of his good sense.  No doubt ego figures into his equation too (& not in a good way) but I don't think that is the entire story.  There are a couple excellent (& relatively recent)biographies about Teddy available.  You cannot read one without concluding that this was a truly extraordinary human being.

You know, there are times when I think "a good way to go" (ie. die) might be on a canoeing adventure up north.  However, I personally would NOT look so kindly upon any similar opportunity down in the Amazon jungle.  In fact, I think that would be a very BAD way to go (too many flesh-eating bugs, cats, & headhunters)!  Everybody has their preferences, I guess.  Anyway, I'm sure Teddy didn't go into it thinking he was going to die but he probably did believe he was mostly impervious to such adversity.  The aging process is more difficult for some of us to digest than for others.

Which reminds me...

I'm not done with it yet but I will soon be endorsing an excellent book entitled, "Younger Next Year" by Crowley & Lodge.  We have a lot of 40, 50 & 60 somethings on QJ secretly wishing to be maintain their canoe-camping habits into their 80's.  Well, this book summarizes the scientific research that can help you actually get there.  It provides a road map... not an easy road BUT probably a manageable one for most of us.

Too bad the book wasn't around for Teddy; it's right up his alley.  Ultimately, of course, Teddy survived the River of Doubt but only just barely!

All you guys who want to doing more than "wishing" they could do trips in their 80's really should read, "Younger Next Year"... more later.  It's a step down the evolutionary path from Covert Bailey's "Fit or Fat?" and is fairly easy to read.

Later,

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Reply #17 - Jan 14th, 2012 at 6:27am
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Another oldie-but-goodie Covert Bailey book that is re: anti-aging exercise is entitled "Smart Exercise"... a very worthy read, particularly if you are interested in the biochemistry aspects.

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Reply #18 - Sep 23rd, 2023 at 8:03pm
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Living in the Dakota's where Roosevelt is already revered - reading this; I developed a whole new respect for the man - who was born of privilege and made himself a solid barrel chested wilderness man, most of us could not keep up with at our best, born with handicaps and still (barely) conquered and unknown river with hostile natives who might have seen his crew as invaders that needed to be eliminated.

I too, have been overconfident, as you will find in this trip report, of late - lost - fell out of my canoe, lost a paddle and various other mishaps. This is a reminder that the wilderness remains a dangerous place, and that we are the biggest danger to ourselves perhaps.

This volume now rests in my bookcase and will be talked about and treasured throughout my days.

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