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kanoes
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Reply #20 - Mar 11th, 2007 at 5:33am
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TimA...those US Plastics barrels....the 8 gallons.....what is their widest diameter?  and what pack of yours do they happen to fit in?  got a tape measure?    Smiley   Jan
  
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Re: blue barrel size needed
Reply #21 - Mar 11th, 2007 at 1:11pm
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cedarboy wrote on Mar 11th, 2007 at 4:11am:
Lets see Redrock Superpack, 2 30L plus pack $240. Northwestcanoe 60L with harness,$144.
Same capacity, $104 less, HMMMM!

cecarboy

NOT affiliated, just know math!!


Exactly. The 2 barrels in a pack might make sense if you already have a large spare pack. But I'll take the single barrrel method with a dedicated harness (Headstrong or Ostom) designed for that purpose. Costs less and feels good to carry.
  
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Reply #22 - Mar 11th, 2007 at 6:15pm
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Thank you all for the great input so far.

quote: old_salt
"Another option to the barrel system is the airtight plastic box that Gander Mtn sells for about $30. One of those will feed 4-6 for a week or so."

old_salt what is the plastic box at Gander Mountain you were talking about? Do you have a link to a picture or brand name?


Also I have read about people using the "Vittles Vaults" sold by pet stores. Do these containers stand up to the same abuse as the blue barrels? And is the lid as secure as the blue barrels?
  
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Re: blue barrel size needed
Reply #23 - Mar 11th, 2007 at 8:07pm
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TimA...those US Plastics barrels....the 8 gallons.....what is their widest diameter?  and what pack of yours do they happen to fit in?  got a tape measure?    Smiley   Jan


Widest diameter is 11 1/2 inches in the middle--narrows down to just under 10" opening. I put it in an older style Granite Gear Superior one pack. If you put two barrels in a pack you will definitely want to use one with the hip belt and suspension system to be able to vary/re-balance  the load. The dimensions for my pack are 20l x25h x11w. I mentioned this before, but the newer GG packs are made with a newer material and don't seem to be as good of fit as I have with my older pack. I'm sure any of the manufacturers make something that would work.

I've also toyed with the idea of bringing one 30L barrel in a pack (since that is all I really ever need for food)---then just putting it in the center of the pack and loading other gear around it to keep it balanced. Then about any pack would work for it---using the two barrels it is just too easy to keep the load balanced is why I haven't tried it yet.

The barrel harness is not an option for me because I already have pack that works (don't want to spend extra on harness) and I like the versatility of having the barrel in an actual pack because other stuff can go in the pack besides what fits in the barrel.

Tim
  
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Reply #24 - Mar 11th, 2007 at 8:18pm
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is the lid as secure as the blue barrels?


mntrehgr,

Among the good advice given here and in the other thread (like avoiding the temptation to prepare food on barrel lids) I have to add that the lid mechanism on the blue barrels, as good as it is, is the weak spot in the sense that the lever may be flipped opened by animals. But not if you place a simple cotter pin through the aligned locking holes in the steel closure ring. A simple thing but not everyone does it. Here's how it looks on my barrel.

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Reply #25 - Apr 17th, 2007 at 8:58pm
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Hi folks. I realize this thread has been going for a while but I just registered as a member today and wanted to share some barrel info that may be helpful.  I just ordered some 9.5 gallon barrels with gasketed, screw on lids from Paul@ontariorecycling.com  These would be slightly larger capacity than the 30L size. Physical dimensions were listed as 18" high by 14" in diameter. They looked good and were certainly priced right at $9.95. If you're interested, you can contact him direct or search "plastic barrels" on ebay.
  
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Reply #26 - Apr 17th, 2007 at 9:17pm
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I've never used barrels but I do believe that there are a lot of good things to be said for them and I may change over to them this year.  Just as an aside I think I wold prefer the molded in handles.  I've handled 55gal plastic drums with the molded in handles and they are comfortable and have enough tumblehome (for want of a better term) to get a good grip.  I would be concerned with the outside handles from several standpoints.  Dropped wrong onto the sole of the canoe the handle could cause structural damage.  The handle appears to be mechanically attached thereby causing stress points at the attachment points which will ultimately fail since the load on the rivets is eccentric resulting in a mechanical advantage.  I believe that the external handles would also be a nuisance in handling because inevitably I seem to have things like that interfere with each other at the worst possible time(blame that on Murphy).  I also suspect that some (not anyone here, ever) might actually use the handles to hang the barrels thereby hastening their demise (the barrels' that is).  Its just unnatural Wink
  
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Reply #27 - Apr 18th, 2007 at 10:49pm
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HA!  i got one of those about 4 weeks ago bell!  heavy duty...ill like it.  the screwtop is kind of a pain in the a** tho.  that plastic is soooo slippery, its hard to get a good leg grip to screw/unscrew the top.   Jan
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Reply #28 - Apr 19th, 2007 at 3:50pm
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Thanks Jan. I haven't received mine yet but I was happy to see your opinion. If they are slippery that just means Yogi & BooBoo will have to work harder. Smiley
  
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Re: blue barrel size needed
Reply #29 - Apr 20th, 2007 at 12:34am
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Tim,

Are you sure the seals on the US Plastics drums are air/water tight?  I'm thinking about picking up a couple of 30l barrels myself and their price is definitely the best I've found but the website states they are for solids only so that got me wondering about the seal.

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