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Re: blue barrel size needed
Reply #50 - Apr 18th, 2009 at 5:32am
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Not bummed! maybe I should enjoy the exercise and carry some of the finer things in life, like real food. Not worry about how fast I can go, It's ime to relax right? SMELL THE ROSES Ive never considered, phyllo mmmm. so much to learn. Roll Eyes A person gets used to the fast paced life style, and brings it up to the woods with them. Run Run Run. I need to slow down. Permanantly.
  
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Re: blue barrel size needed
Reply #51 - Apr 18th, 2009 at 1:01pm
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Solo is tough to one pass. Some might but not me. The only way one pass ever sounded feasible to me was 3 in a tandem. But I'd hate to travel that way in a canoe. Over the course of your day you'll travel farther and enjoy yourself more by just backing down your pace a tick.

If you have a GPS, try paddling at what you think a fast pace is. Note the speed. Then try a very relaxed paddle, but keep it moving. Note your speed. You'll probably find you're only going 5 minutes slower per hour for the same distance. Not enough difference and the overall effect on how you feel at the end of the day and the next is huge. That's my feelings about portage style too. But to each their own.

If you have a small barrel too. Carry it with your canoe and keep the large barrel for gear and carry it separate. Then go ahead and bring some luxuries, but not too many either.
  
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Reply #52 - Apr 18th, 2009 at 3:36pm
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I use to focus on the miles.....the boy really slowed my pace and made me work harder. It opened a lot of doors for me. Love the pace, love the two/three/four overs. Loved carrying him on my shoulders with the pack and then back over again to get another...had to stopp doing this when he was 7...The things that we have seen, the photography ( the frames that I have filled simply because I have seen "it" from a different angle), he is bomber at finding those strawberries too.....must be the angle. If I wanted to go fast I would have to dump the gormet thing, fishing, stoves, the photoes, and on and on-Why then go? Huh $ us...GOALS what is it about for you....your group....what are you looking to share with your chums? Is it a miles trip? Is it a speed trip? IS it a one over trip? Wink
  
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Re: blue barrel size needed
Reply #53 - Apr 18th, 2009 at 6:32pm
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Fishpig wrote on Apr 18th, 2009 at 5:32am:
Not bummed! maybe I should enjoy the exercise and carry some of the finer things in life, like real food. Not worry about how fast I can go, It's ime to relax right? SMELL THE ROSES Ive never considered, phyllo mmmm. so much to learn. Roll Eyes A person gets used to the fast paced life style, and brings it up to the woods with them. Run Run Run. I need to slow down. Permanantly.


JJS has the right idea IMHO. Most of us solo paddlers are 2x portagers.
The reasons for double portaging are many, personal safety is probably the best, at least for me.
IF your determined to single portage, and you've cut down your gear and food as far as you feel comfortable with, then the only other thing you can do, is get yourself stronger. Not many of us have jobs that require us too carry 100# give or take across rough terrain in difficult/wet conditions. You can do squats at the gym, build your legs up, and hike with full pack for a few miles every night to build your endurance, but depending on your age/over-all physical condition, and your genetics, your only going to get/want too get so strong?
Try this, pick a distance, say a 1/4-1/2 mile, and time yourself walking it both single and double portage. I'll be willing too bet, the difference between the two times isn't as much as you think? Unless you can cross a portage at a decent speed, without resting single load, your really not gaining much time. The wear and tear, safety issues and time recuperating all figures in the mix. IF you can go single, non-stop, and be ready to paddle at the end, more power too you Wink
I don't think many here can, and most of us have found "Smelling the Roses" is a very good thing Grin
  
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Re: blue barrel size needed
Reply #54 - Apr 19th, 2009 at 5:50pm
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Nothing like the fragrance of the roses Winki remeber having a camper break a foot on a cedar root with a heavy pack that they refused help with...that was the end of the trip for him....a solo enterprise is a whole different twist on the senario. I am in constant motion, constantly lifting, and on all sorts of terrain....and I am still a two/three....over tripper-with a kid. Speed kills Wink but I am so darn worried that if i stopp I am going to seize up Grin so I just push a littler harder that a happy medium Roll Eyesand sprint from my age WinkSo much for the blue barrels yeh!
  
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Reply #55 - Apr 19th, 2009 at 6:00pm
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I guess I"ll get a 30L barrel for food then. Is there a decent harness for the little barrel?  On the last trip, my wife and I went to Lac La Croix via moose river (in 2 solos) we had 3 packs and a barrel. A guy blew by us in a Magic and 1 BIG pack. He had a graphite kayak paddle and CCS splash covers, so I thought mmmmm nice set-up. I said howdy when he went by, he looked at me like this Angry . Sorry for wrecking your solitute dude! Anyways, I appreciate all the advice. Cool
  
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Re: blue barrel size needed
Reply #56 - Apr 19th, 2009 at 6:17pm
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Fishpig wrote on Apr 19th, 2009 at 6:00pm:
I guess I"ll get a 30L barrel for food then. Is there a decent harness for the little barrel?  On the last trip, my wife and I went to Lac La Croix via moose river (in 2 solos) we had 3 packs and a barrel. A guy blew by us in a Magic and 1 BIG pack. He had a graphite kayak paddle and CCS splash covers, so I thought mmmmm nice set-up.


Do a gear search under barrells/harness/food packs, and we've had some lengthy discussions on the subject. I believe "some" of the barrel fans have carried their 30l barrels in designated food packs, like the Granite Gear/ similar packs? Gives you more options IF you want to try something besides the barrel?
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Re: blue barrel size needed
Reply #57 - Apr 20th, 2009 at 2:51pm
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You might want to consider the overall weight of the barrel/harness set-up verses a traditional soft side pack.....which is lighter. Just think that you maybe able to cut more weight in your search for the one over and such...Just a thought.
  
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Reply #58 - Apr 21st, 2009 at 1:25am
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This is the barrel setup I use Ostrom Harness. It is great. I have a waterproof compression bag for my sleeping bag, which straps on top of barrel. I got everything I needed for 2005 Bushwhackers Jamboree in this setup.

I just bought a pop-up cooler for the inside, it fits perfect with room around the outside for other items. Works great.

(You need to Login or Register to view media files and links) but not the exact cooler I bought from Walmart. Mine is actually made by California Innovations.

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Re: blue barrel size needed
Reply #59 - Apr 21st, 2009 at 1:48am
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Hey Troy and all-have you every done the weight conparison? I get that the barrel gig maybe a more durable way of going over the long haul, esp. if one is not handy with a needle and such. Outright....what are the pro and cons? I am a smaller framed person and do Ok with a stuffed Quetico Pack by GG. Why would one want to make a transittion to this style of pack....very curious about them with all the dialog.....Are there other sources for the barrels locally?
  
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