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 25 Portage Boot Recomendations (Read 158416 times)
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Re: Portage Boot Recomendations
Reply #160 - Jun 5th, 2010 at 1:55am
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Ok, you got me. I'm not going in to look at cool-max socks I'm going in to purchase. Seems like with the average temp in my shop hitting 90 by say 10 A.M. something with the name "cool" and "max" would get my attention. Thanks for the additional posts, sometimes I need to get hit upside the head with a 2x4 before I get it!
  
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Reply #161 - Jun 17th, 2010 at 5:38pm
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Go to (You need to Login or Register to view media files and links) then "Tactical Water" (there are previous reviews on these boots on this site).  OTB = Over The Beach, inpired by boots designed for Navy Seals.  They have 3 levels of footbed than can be mixed/matched to help fit.  I normally wear a 12 and the 12 fits perfect - be sure to read their sizing guide.

Definately  Smiley Smiley from me.

Just returned from near the BWCA with scouts on BWCA shakedown trip - 1 adult and 3 boys have the SAR ($39), I have the Odhin ($59) - we were all very, very impressed w/ the performance of both models.

I initially tried the new Seal Skinz ($45) that are supposed to be completely waterproof - they were very comfortable, and I was pleased until my 1st trip into the water - I could feel the water running down my leg to my feet.  My feet stayed wet all day as socks wouldn't get rid of that much water even though we were in camp 6-7 hours before I took them off - bad prune feet that night.  The socks are going back to REI.  

Next day, wore liners and smart wools, soaked them on a portage and after a 15-30 min out of the water, feet "felt" dry even though smartwools were still wet.  The mesh panels and soles with holes drain water instantly and then the socks took over moving the moisture away from the feet.  If it is breezy, you can feel the wind through the mesh - wicking the moisture away.  No prune feet at night and incredibly comfortable boots with good support.  The padding on the inside doesn't soak up water, so they don't feel heavy when wet.  So comfortable, I probably won't take camp shoes on our July trip.  Traction was excellent except on moss covered rocks where nothing sticks.  Absolutely no sand, stones, gravel, etc under my foot like always  happens w/ my Merrell Saugatuck sandals.

They are on sale, the SAR style is not quite as supportive as the Odhin (they also have an Abyss $49 - green), but worked very well per the 3 boys and one adult who wore them.  Green is being phased out and thus the reduced price over the black ones, otherwise, they are the same.

For the price and value, these are a steal - get them before they are gone!
  
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Re: Portage Boot Recomendations
Reply #162 - Jul 10th, 2010 at 12:18pm
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Used the OTB Abyss (green) for the first time last June.  8 days.  They worked great.  I wear size 10 shoes and purchased size 10 booits.  They were comfortable enough wearing coolmax liner with smartwool crew and all the inserts.  No blisters or crinkled foot problems (Gold Bond each evening worked well).  They were especially nice on the portages...sturdy and gripped well, and no longer did I worry about dodging ankle/shin deep mud...just plodded right through.  As with any boot, there were some slippage on wet rocks/granite slabs.  A coiuple days, I also tried the 11-inch Cabela's gore tex socks with the coolmax liner, smartwool sock, and one less insert.  The only reason my socks got wet was due to sweat...it was noticably warmer with the gore tex.  For dry-footers, this is an option as long as you don't go over shin-deep water/mud.

The boots were generally dry by the next morning provided a few hours of sun was available.  The interesting thing was you could really feel the coolness when wearing them in the water...felt good after a tough portage.

Definitely recommend the Abyss boots, and will follow up again after my lengthly solo starting next week.
  
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Re: Portage Boot Recomendations
Reply #163 - Aug 4th, 2010 at 5:34pm
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Well, I had my brother in law pick me up sock liners on his way up from the cities earlier this year. The sales man at REI sold him the pair Mastertangler suggested even though I asked for the Cool Max. And he'd only sell one pair saying that's all I'd need. I used them on my recent 10 day in the WCPP and had no foot issues. Several times I got to camp with wet feet and was in no hurry to change into dry footwear. So I'm sold on the liner thing. The portages were not as long as my BW trip in May, but boot sucking mud and other challenges were the norm in WCPP. I hope to get out one more time to test them on the longer portages, but I'm trying to save for my Oct trip to the Phillipines. So we'll see. Thanks all for the input... How are these other boots like the OTC's and such holding up to multiple trips? My Chota's are showing wear, but still okay I think for another gruelling trip.
  
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Re: Portage Boot Recomendations
Reply #164 - Aug 4th, 2010 at 8:31pm
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nctry_Ben wrote on Aug 4th, 2010 at 5:34pm:
Well, I had my brother in law pick me up sock liners on his way up from the cities earlier this year. The sales man at REI sold him the pair Mastertangler suggested even though I asked for the Cool Max. And he'd only sell one pair saying that's all I'd need. I used them on my recent 10 day in the WCPP and had no foot issues. Several times I got to camp with wet feet and was in no hurry to change into dry footwear. So I'm sold on the liner thing.
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How are these other boots like the OTC's and such holding up to multiple trips? My Chota's are showing wear, but still okay I think for another gruelling trip.

In my opinion, sock liners are an absolute must if you are walking for extended periods under load in the woods.  I've been using them for at least 25 years.  I still prefer CoolMax for backpacking, but I'm more inclined to go with a SmartWool liner for canoeing.  Oh, BTW:  I do take multiple pairs of liners AND socks on my trips.

I used my OTB Ohdin's (high top variation of the Abyss) on my 10-day WCPP trip.  They worked great ... even in boot sucking mud up to my hip.  But you will need to either double knot or use the lace stuffer pouch to keep them tied ... and they drain EXCEPTIONALLY well.  They will be my likely choice for an upcoming 2-week Quetico trip.

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Re: Portage Boot Recomendations
Reply #165 - Aug 4th, 2010 at 9:58pm
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I'll echo what dd says, both about this specific boot AND the liner.

They DO drain exceptionally well.  You WILL need to double-knot the laces; they will come apart on you otherwise.  During our 12 day WCP trip, even my double-knots started coming apart.  I strongly suspect this is exactly what caused the significant problem I experienced.

With or without a liner, you always want to be certain your foot is not slip-sliding around inside of the boot.  My liners started feeling pretty greasy inside of my boots during rough bushwhack on Day 3 when we were climbing cliffs and then descending into swamps.  The end result is that I ended up with some of the worst blood blisters of my life & lost 3  toenails.  I'm not exactly sure why they started feeling so greasy & slippery inside of the boots; could be the liners simply didn't match up well with the wool socks I was wearing.  They did OK on Day 1 and Day 2.  Maybe I should have changed them out before Day 3?  It could be that those boots simply aren't meant for the kind of climbing we were doing that day.  More likely, however, it was that the laces kept coming undone, thus allowing too much wiggling of feet inside of the boots.

Don't get me wrong; I DO like the boots.  They drain nice & provide good support.  I may have to try some other laces on them, however.  Those that come with the boots simply will not stay tied!

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Re: Portage Boot Recomendations
Reply #166 - Aug 4th, 2010 at 11:28pm
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I ran into this item which I use on my outdoor cross training shoes.
I've since switched out ALL my boots for them.
Maybe they'll work for you.
Eliminating tying multiple knots, hanging trip prone knots, and ease of taking off/putting on, make them worth a shot in my book.

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Re: Portage Boot Recomendations
Reply #167 - Aug 6th, 2010 at 9:42pm
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That link didn't work for me ST.  Brought me to the website but did not show whatever product you were talking about.
  
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Reply #168 - Aug 6th, 2010 at 11:27pm
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SnowDog -

I think he was going for this:

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Reply #169 - Aug 8th, 2010 at 12:11am
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So ST, I need you to explain how to make those things work.  I went out and got some because it seems like a brilliant idea.  I'm using them with OTB Abyss boots so there needs to be slack available to pull them on and off.  Okay so I slip my laces through the cordlock doohickey and tie the laces off together with enough lace on the other side to provide slack to get the boots on and off, so that's about 5" or so.  Okay so now I have my boots on and tighten down the cord lock and have 5" of lace above it to hang down on the ground.  What am I missing here?  I feel like I'm failing the world's simplest intelligence test (you know, the ones monkeys can do in about 8 minutes.)   Please advise.
  
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