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Re: Portage Boot Recomendations
Reply #180 - Aug 10th, 2010 at 10:47pm
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Kerry wrote on Aug 10th, 2010 at 8:37pm:
Preacher wrote on Aug 10th, 2010 at 5:17pm:
They're spring toggles you find on pretty much any non-waterproof stuff sack.  Any reputable camping supply store should have a bulk bin full of them if they have bulk bins at all.


They're not really.  I picked up some of the ones they have at MEC (and they do have a bulk bin) and they're pretty cheap and in fact won't really hold the laces without slippage.  I tried them out and I don't have confidence that they'll work.   I think the ones ST is talking about, at least according to his description, are better quality that will properly bite down and do the job.  My problem is how do you order something worth $2.50 when shipping is $20.


The Fastex ones I referenced are military spec, proven in combat conditions, where you don't need your boot coming loose at the wrong time. They're made of a tough resin type plastic, that won't break under pressure. When I tried the old stuff bag toggles before discovering these, I had to tie a knot to secure the toggle in place, which defeated the whole toggle idea. IF you get a few pair, you'll see they're nothing like stuff sack toggles. More like stuff sack toggles on steroids Grin

I understand the shipping dilemma Grin But I'm sure if you peruse the site, you could find another item that might make the deal more palatable for you :question

They have some great stuff, most proven in the real world conditions.
You might try a good running store Undecided  I know they have similar items, but not sure they have that one.

You could also Google Fastex Cordloc Boot Laces, and then run thru a web shopper. Maybe you could find a better price, or shipping rate?
  
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Re: Portage Boot Recomendations
Reply #181 - Aug 18th, 2010 at 5:26pm
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Kerry wrote on Aug 10th, 2010 at 8:37pm:
My problem is how do you order something worth $2.50 when shipping is $20.

I just ordered 20 of them from Mil-Spec Monkey.  That makes the unit price $0.45, but you can buy a single for $.65.

Shipping via USPS was $2.00

BTW:  Why did I buy so many ... Hey, not only am I going to add them to my boot laces, I'm going to give them a try as quick line tensioners for my tent and tarp.  (I'll report back on whether or not this is a good use for them).

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Re: Portage Boot Recomendations
Reply #182 - Aug 18th, 2010 at 6:01pm
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I suspect they aren't good for guy-lines.  In big wind, when you need them most, is when they'll fail.  Nothing's better than a short line & a good knot.
  
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Re: Portage Boot Recomendations
Reply #183 - Aug 18th, 2010 at 7:07pm
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DentonDoc wrote on Aug 18th, 2010 at 5:26pm:
Kerry wrote on Aug 10th, 2010 at 8:37pm:
My problem is how do you order something worth $2.50 when shipping is $20.

I just ordered 20 of them from Mil-Spec Monkey.  That makes the unit price $0.45, but you can buy a single for $.65.

Shipping via USPS was $2.00

BTW:  Why did I buy so many ... Hey, not only am I going to add them to my boot laces, I'm going to give them a try as quick line tensioners for my tent and tarp.  (I'll report back on whether or not this is a good use for them).

dd


dd, be sure to give a report on whether they worked as boot laces. They look just like the ones I bought , but I believe the plastic might be different Undecided
Mine hold fast without any knots behind the cord-lock. If yours don't, then they're not the same. I hope they are, because the price you paid can't be beat. I understand there's always a retail price difference, but Brigade Quarter Masters is on the of the largest outfits of its type. I can't believe they'd mark their version up so much, but you never know.

Just a thought on the guy line tensioner idea. I've tried different ways over they years. I had the tensioner's that are slightly curved with a hole on each end. Worked well, except for one big weakness. Unless you wound up each guy-line before stuffing tarp/tent fly in bag, I always ended up with a tangled mess when I pulled it out.

I don't like to take the time to fold or roll fly, I just stuff it in bag. I've found that rather than using guy-line devices, a quick truckers hitch was the way too go. Works around any anchoring object, gives you a little mechanical advantage, and is easily adjusted.
  
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Reply #184 - Sep 18th, 2010 at 7:10pm
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I just want to say that I used OTB Abyss boots for the first time on my recent 3 week excursion into the Q in August.  They were absolutely the best.  Great drainage, dried relatively quickly and the traction seemed just fine.  They also seem to holding up well and the fit and comfort very good.  So five stars from me on these.
  
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Re: Portage Boot Recomendations
Reply #185 - Dec 7th, 2010 at 1:03am
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solotripper wrote on Aug 18th, 2010 at 7:07pm:
DentonDoc wrote on Aug 18th, 2010 at 5:26pm:
Kerry wrote on Aug 10th, 2010 at 8:37pm:
My problem is how do you order something worth $2.50 when shipping is $20.

I just ordered 20 of them from Mil-Spec Monkey.  That makes the unit price $0.45, but you can buy a single for $.65.

Shipping via USPS was $2.00

BTW:  Why did I buy so many ... Hey, not only am I going to add them to my boot laces, I'm going to give them a try as quick line tensioners for my tent and tarp.  (I'll report back on whether or not this is a good use for them).

dd


dd, be sure to give a report on whether they worked as boot laces. They look just like the ones I bought , but I believe the plastic might be different Undecided

I used the the product on my September canoe trip.  I did some longish portages, a few serious bog walks and a couple of plunges in to waist deep swamp.  Over the two weeks of use, the boot laces remained continually snug.  On a previous trip with the same boots, single knots didn't generally last a day without becoming untied ... even double knots came loose once or twice.

I've also walked these tensioners on my hiking boots.  No tension failures to report in the first 200 miles of use.

EXCELLENT tip ST!  Thanks.

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Re: Portage Boot Recomendations
Reply #186 - Dec 7th, 2010 at 12:50pm
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I have just re-read this thread about the cord locks and put my rear in gear with procuring them especially after reading what happened to Jimbo. I too, am intending to run the OTB boots for the first time this summer.

I have always run the chota Mukluks but think they could get pulled off in a deep bog. Plus the traction is lacking.

Thanks DD for bringing this up again. And thanks ST for the tip.
  
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Re: Portage Boot Recomendations
Reply #187 - Dec 7th, 2010 at 5:06pm
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EXCELLENT tip ST!  Thanks.


After years of double tie-ing outdoor/workout footwear with the stand-by double knots that still came undone at the most inopportune times and still left lace loops that you could snag and fall with, these just made so much sense, I had to try them.

I tried the simple cord-locks but they didn't do the job, not sturdy enough and didn't have the bite. When I saw they were combat proven, I knew the idea was valid.

I'm glad you found a cheaper price.
I think anyone that tries them, will be impressed.
  
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Re: Portage Boot Recomendations
Reply #188 - Dec 13th, 2010 at 7:18pm
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I missed it somehow. Got the cord locks from Brigade quarter masters and am not the least bit impressed. I got three packs and they all perform the same on the OTB boots which is to say they don't.


Maybe the laces are to thin and especially slick but they don't really grab them that well. Did I go with the wrong supplier?
  
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Re: Portage Boot Recomendations
Reply #189 - Dec 13th, 2010 at 7:51pm
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I have the Brigade ones as well and they work fine.
I have the regular type round boot laces as well?
Are you double clicking them once you have them adjusted?
I had a problem at first because when I squeezed them open with one hand and adjusted the lace with the other, they came loose too.

I found that after you adjust, you need to make sure the little locking tab is visible? That might require a double click depending on how thick your laces are?

I just checked them on my Teva water shoes to make sure.
If you pull real hard they'll move, but it takes considerable effort.
If they can withstand the rigors of combat, they should hold up on a canoe trip I would think.
  
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