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 25 Portage Boot Recomendations (Read 158427 times)
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Re: Portage Boot Recomendations
Reply #80 - Sep 27th, 2008 at 11:29am
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a dry boot, even if knee high, just doesn't work for me. wet footing i'd be over the tops every day and would have to deal with boots full of water. having your feet in water inside a non draining boot every day is a whole different story than having wet feet with a draining boot.

i think i'll try the NRS work boot if new Storms aren't available until 8/09 like i was told the other day.
  
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Re: Portage Boot Recomendations
Reply #81 - Sep 28th, 2008 at 7:19pm
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QP,
 I worked commercial construction for 15 years, and toward the end, my ankles and feet were hurting from hours on a ladder like yours.
 I see some  of the newer extension ladders have flatter wider rungs compared to the old round ones that are hell on your insteps.
 Yes, you could rehabilitate those old ankles/feet, but not until you give up climbing up and down ladders, which isn't a natural thing for your feet to be doing. Love the "shoe" garden idea, bet that gets some conversations going Wink
k,
  We can agree on one thing, I don't like the drugs/operate mentality of many physicians. The guy I mentioned became interested in the "healing" side of health and fitness and was at one time thinking of going to Med school. He had family members/personal issues with the whole drug/operate mentality and went in a more Natural Healing direction. He's in the last semester of a 4 year program in Traditional Chinese Medicine. Once he's finished, he has to certify with the state of CA, a very demanding test, then will be a Licensed Acupuncturist and Herbalist. He's in his "needling/herbal" internship now and feels vindicated that he chose the right path. There is a growing movement in this country by people who want less invasive methods than surgery and don't want to be depended on drugs. There will always be cases which only surgery or specialized drugs will do the trick, but is hoping for the day when both Western/Eastern medicine will come together in the interest of what's the best for the patient, regardless of what treatment they choose. Many of his Chinese medicine teachers, are also Md's and see the two styles as being complimentary and not competitive. I would always opt for the natural way if I have the choice but that is a personal decision we all have to make?
  
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Re: Portage Boot Recomendations
Reply #82 - Oct 11th, 2008 at 5:28pm
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fwiw:
Used  a pair of 'Altma 3LC', (You need to Login or Register to view media files and links)
jungle boots going up Stuart River and out Horse River/Mudro. Wet footed all landings and waded thru several rapids. Some long portages and the climb from Sandpit to Mudro.
Lots of traction on all surfaces except moss/slime covered rocks underwater. Full shank meant walking over sharp pointy rocks and such was no trouble. Good protection over and above the ankle. Drained well. Worn with Smartwool socks. Good fit, I take 8 1/2 EEE size, bought 9 wide. Had room for liner socks and heavy hiking socks. Dried out overnite, faster than the wool socks.
A bit heavy, but are now my paddling boots of choice.

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Reply #83 - Oct 28th, 2008 at 10:29pm
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One more for the mix - a fly fishing boot with ankle support and rubber soles from Cabela's:

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I find them more comfortable than combat boots, and by taking out the insoles, you can wear neoprene socks for very cold conditions.
  
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Re: Portage Boot Recomendations
Reply #84 - Nov 2nd, 2008 at 4:45pm
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Having not had a chance to read all of the above (though I read the first few pages last year) here is some of my two cents:

Chota's Breathable Mukluks:  I got a pair of these two years ago for a fall trip into Quetico (9 days).  My then girlfriend got a pair as well (hers have held up better than mine, but she uses them less and weighs 80-100# less than me).  On the second day, one of the laces tore through one of the loops.  On closer examination later, it turned out that the loop is made of one piece of tough nylon covered with a second piece of cosmetic fabric.  The actual loop that the shock cord was supposed to go through had been epoxied closed and the cord simply ran through the cosmetic stuff.   I later fixed this.  I wore them again the next spring on an 8 day trip.  By the end of the second trip, the soles were worn almost smooth and had almost no traction on many surfaces--I slid out a couple of times (to be fair, I am a big guy and have a bit of a limp, so between Q granite and my weight I put a lot of stress on boot soles--still I would have hoped the soles would have lasted longer).  Another friend who was wearing the same boots (for the first time) wiped out on a rock race and was badly hurt (we got lucky and were able to air-evac him thanks to some other canoeists with a SAT phone).  Granted he was moving too fast on a slippery surface.  I had a local cobbler put a material called Aqua Stealth on the soles for this spring.  It's a rock-climbing sole material.  This stuff was awesome and gave me better grip than almost anything I have ever worn and seems to have held up well to a fair bit of abuse this past year.  My right boot has leaked since mid-way through the second trip.  Not terribly, but the whole point of these things is that you are going for dry feet.  This fall, an entire lace loop tore out of one side of the boot when I was lacing up.  The boots have very little arch support so I found it necessary to us a pair of Super Feet insoles.   
All in all I am unimpressed.  Considering that the boots cost over $100 initially I found the construction to be somewhat shoddy.  With resoling and inserts, they cost me about $70 more.  Not enough bang for the buck.  The only real plus is having (mostly) dry feet and warmth.

NRS Storm boots:  I am generally a wet-footer except for the serious cold water season.  Because I am usually paddling solo, I find it very advantageous to be able to get wet to the thighs if need be at difficult landings, etc.  The Storm boots have worked very well for me.  Traction is good, as is ankle support.  I did use a better insole (again, the Super Feet) which I think helps.  I also had the local cobbler add an additional loop on the back of the neoprene booty and reinforce the stitching between the booty and the back of the boot to prevent the booty from tearing away from the boot itself when pulling it on.  I would recommend this.  Used with a polypro or silk sock liner they are pretty comfortable, though after a long day in them I'm usually looking forward to getting them off and de-pruning the feet.  A bad rock/root snag did catch and tear one boot above the toe (a dumped me headlong--pack, canoe and all) which will need a repair, but they held up admirably otherwise.  They've stood up to 70-80 days of use in the lake country since last fall and will take a lot more.
 
That is my (long-winded) opinion.  Probably more like a dime than two cents.
Cheers and happy portaging,
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Re: Portage Boot Recomendations
Reply #85 - Nov 2nd, 2008 at 4:55pm
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I've got to add to my last long post.  My first pair of Storm boots got sent back because the booties and boots separated on the first attempt at pulling them on.  They were great about replacing them.
On closer inspection, the boots do have some separation happening, though nothing critical. 
I am very lucky that we have a great cobbler here in Madison who is also a paddler.  She does great work at reasonable prices.  I'll be taking my boots to her for necessary repairs instead of trying to get NRS to work on them.
  
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Re: Portage Boot Recomendations
Reply #86 - Nov 3rd, 2008 at 12:40am
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solotripper wrote on Mar 12th, 2007 at 9:08pm:
 When people talk about ankle support, what there really telling you is they have weakness" in there supporting muscles around the foot area.
IF you have that problem and want to fix it and not just hide it with high boots and restrictive lacing techniques, you can go to a running store and buy a balance trainer and that will fix you right up!
its basically a circular piece of wood with a central pivot point that you can adjust for angle.
The idea is to strengthen the weak muscles by balancing yourself on it a few minutes each day.


ST,

I know we've already discussed this this concept of strengthening your ankles, and I took the side of high tops aiding in support...

Though I have to stand back a moment and tell you I was at a friends place the other day and he was showing his house to a few of us.  Well wouldn't you know, he had one of these ankle rockers you speak of.  I asked him what this odd contraption was.. he informed me of what it was,  and that he attests to it's value.  I'm not saying I'm going to run out and purchase one today.. but may eventualy.  I stay fairly active and ankle conditoning is not at a high priority today... though things change.

Turns out you had a good point.

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Re: Portage Boot Recomendations
Reply #87 - Nov 3rd, 2008 at 1:42pm
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k,
    Even a blind squirrel finds a nut now and then Grin
 Obviously, if you have had injuries too your ankles that required surgery or suffered damage that can't be repaired, your weakness might be permanent. However, like any muscle group, you feet/ankles respond to exercise and that balance trainer is one of the best ways to get at all those small supportive muscles. IF your feeling adventurous, try it out the next time your at your friends house, I can tell you that it will surprise you how hard it is to stay balanced, and how fast you'll feel any inherent weakness you have! Anything you can do to strengthen your ankles, regardless of shoe choice is well worth doing if your a outdoor enthusiast.
  
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Re: Portage Boot Recomendations
Reply #88 - Nov 3rd, 2008 at 2:57pm
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To strengthen your ankles - here's what a Physical Therapist told my son to do after a high-ankle sprain:

balance on each foot (lifting the other off the ground) as long as you can.
repeat.

The wobble board adds additional range of motion, but just balancing on 1 foot strengthens all the muscles involved in balancing. 

If you're a wet-footer, look for rubber soled wading boots or boots for wet-foot fishing on coral. The original Patagonia 'marlwalkers' are what I use - and I don't just use them canoeing - I wet wade for smallmouth in them.

The chota mukluk soles are horrible on every surface, wet or dry. Like the warm feet when the waters cold, but they are slippery on everything.
  
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Reply #89 - Feb 26th, 2009 at 11:15pm
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I like the LL Bean Maine Hunter with the highest leather. Not totally waterproof. There is slight seepage but foot never gets soaked, just damp. Never bothers me and I don't think I'd like the other option of soaked feet all day. They offer a good tradeoff between hard sole and feeling the ground. Excellent traction and excellent ankle support. Need to rub a leather waterproofer into the uppers before the trip.
  
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