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WCPP Maps to Navigate By
Sep 22nd, 2007 at 1:04pm
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I am seeking a source for Woodland Caribou Provincial Park maps to navigate by.  I already possess the overall park map, purchased from the Park Supintendent at 'Copia a couple years back.  While better than nothing, the scale of this map would make it less than satisfactory for navigation purposes in WCPP (ie. about like using an entire Quetico Park map to navigate with through the Q).

db has been very helpful to me in suggesting numerous possible sources for the sort of maps I seek.  However, to date, I have come up with exactly NOTHING.  Yes, I know that, sooner or later, I will probably contact the likes of an outfitter such as Goldseekers to arrange this (or that) service (shuttle, etc.).  THOSE guys HAVE the maps I seek, I'm sure.  However, THEY must have a source!

Ah, you say, "Jimbo, you dum-dum, why not simply call them & buy what you need?"

I say, "That would be too easy!"  Besides, I'm not quite ready, yet, to be discussing my needs with any outfitter.  

Rather, I'm thinking SOMEBODY out there in QJ world has BEEN to WCPP and used such maps.  Maybe they can tell me the name of the map publisher OR a retail source that carries them???  Anyway, I figure it's worth a shot.  Otherwise, I'll be calling Goldseekers in a couple weeks.

I got me a bad case of "planning fever" going already!

Thanks for any help you might be able to provide!

Jimbo   Cool


P.S. Anticipating the question... my motive for checking out WCPP (probably) has little to do with the '08 park fishing regs in the Q.  
  
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Re: WCPP Maps to Navigate By
Reply #1 - Sep 22nd, 2007 at 8:13pm
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Jimbo, I'll take a shot at this. Back in '99 (the year of the BWCA blowdown) we went up to WCPP. Did a fly-in, paddle out trip. We got 2 maps (besides the big park map) produced by the Canuck Gov't. They are paper, but we waterproofed them, at a scale of 1:50,000. While not as nice as what we are used to with Fisher/McKenzie, they are good enough that we were able to navigate around. They also show possible shortcuts that you may want to explore. Our outfitter identified campsites and which lakes held which species of fish. Lakes tend to be trout lakes or waldo lakes, not many have both. Perhaps if you search the web for the Canucks website, you'll find what you are looking for. PM me for more info.

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Reply #2 - Sep 22nd, 2007 at 8:45pm
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call bill ostrum-people say his store has maps for anywhere you might want to go.
  
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Reply #3 - Sep 23rd, 2007 at 12:35am
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sorry, that's ostrom, with an "o".

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Reply #4 - Sep 23rd, 2007 at 1:05am
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Jimbo,
2 or 3 thoughts
this might work:
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When Azalea got the good topos for the PCD, he downloaded free govt topos for the Q area, but indicated that they're available for all of Canada from the same site.  I haven't tracked that down, but it might be worth something.

One of the outfitters probably has a good source & may even make up their own with added info (portages) like CCO does for the Q.

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Reply #5 - Sep 23rd, 2007 at 3:01am
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maybe like this one

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Reply #6 - Sep 23rd, 2007 at 4:46am
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OK, the one Azalea got the real govt topos from is this:
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I don't understand what he did or how he did it, but it's discussed here
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for anyone who's interested.
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Reply #7 - Sep 23rd, 2007 at 12:36pm
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jdrocks & Tom,

I started to thank you guys for your ideas yesterday, then got sidetracked.  Now I'm glad I waited!  These last few sources you mention seem  to offer real potential.

jd, I've bought a fair amount of stuff directly from Bill Ostrum, including his super-deluxe Blue Barrel harness.  When I go to his website, however, I find no reference for maps.  I haven't tried e-mailing him yet.  The other sources you go on to reference, however, seem to get me closer to what I'm after.

Tom, I think those 1:50,000 canoe route maps are exactly what I'm looking for.  I should be able to use my very good overall park map to help me identify the specific maps I'll need to cross the park.  

I picked up everything the WCPP Superintendent had to offer about his park a couple years ago at 'Copia.  From that stuff I've done a fair amount of research already re: terrain, flora & fauna, lakes by fishing type, pictos, campsites, traditional canoe routes, areas where motorized craft are likely to be seen... stuff like that.  For instance, I know that while the chances of my spotting a caribou or a wolverine ain't good, there are certain areas of the park where they are better than average (not that I REALLY wish to encounter a wolverine; did you know that WCPP is like the world's hot spot for them?).  I overlay those desired attributes with the type fishing & paddling I am looking for, superimpose what campsite info I have gleaned, add in Old Salt's notes and - voila! - I have sort of plotted a general path across the entire park.

I am considering having an outfitter dump me at my choice EP on the east side, then shuttle my vehicle for me around to the Manitoba side take-out.  That's my current line of thinking, anyway.

You guys know how it is when you get "the fever"... you just gotta have those maps!

I appreciate your helping me move forward!

Jimbo   Cool
  
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Reply #8 - Sep 23rd, 2007 at 3:37pm
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spoke with bill back in august, but i forgot to ask him about maps myself. i'm pretty sure i've seen ostrom as a resource for maps at their store at least, or a tie in with another vendor. if it's available, bill can probably get it.
  
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Reply #9 - Sep 24th, 2007 at 11:28pm
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Jimbo
Don’t rule out having some one go in through the west side and come out the east side.  They get in your car and you in theirs and meet at the border. Mabe even meet in the middle.
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