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Apr 18th, 2009 at 5:15pm
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In an attempt to split off this topic from the "who am I" thread, I apparently trashed the end of the thread and deleted the posts I was trying to move.

My apologies to the other posters.

I will attempt to re-create my previous posts about WCPP Mapping here.

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Reply #1 - Apr 18th, 2009 at 6:08pm
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Let me try this again!

The first sample map, below, is based on material that started out with the line of products available through Garmin.  The software used is Garmin's MapSource, the base maps (topo's) are from Garmin's Topo Canada, and my particular GPS unit is a (no longer in production) eTrex Vista Cx (color + MicroSD memory card).  (The unit is pocket sized and is generally mounted to the foot rail in my Wenonah Prism.)

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Legend:

Black line (with dots): established canoe route (for this year's trip)
Small green dot:  campsite
Small red square:  beginning/ending of portage (length removed to eliminate map clutter ... I retained this for my hardcopy versions)
Fish symbol: species of fish found in lake
Small yellow inverted triangle: commercial boat caches (which probably means a fly-in lake)
Small orange dot: location name (not otherwise provided in MapSource)
Small black + symbol:  reef or navigation obstruction

For those famaliar with Mapsource, few of these symbols are from the standard set.  I found the standard symbols excessively large when downloaded to my GPS, so I created a series of customer waypoint symbols which dramatically reduces the visible clutter (in both Mapsource and on my GPS).  Other custom symbols (not shown in the sample), pictograph (stylized thunderbird) and note (pencil & pad).

The image (above) has been downsized and the details are a bit hard to pick out.  However, you might be able to pick out a bit more detail from:

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and perhaps using the zoom feature of your browser.  (Of course, with the Garmin map software you can zoom and out at will and the actual images are not as grainy as this.)

Keep in mind that MapSource/Topo Canada provides few of the details shown beyond the basic topography and location names of significant landmarks.  The other material is source from a number of available web resources.  (I'll provide a comprehensive list later.)

So ... to do these maps, you are talking about a substantial time investment to pull these resources together (and in some cases convert them into a format MapSource is capable of manipulating).

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Reply #2 - Apr 18th, 2009 at 6:21pm
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The second image comes from a source that might be more recognizable for many of you.  It was produced via Memory Maps software.  However, I didn't find the base maps (topo's) commercially available, so I found, downloaded and installed the tiff images shown into Memory Maps based on material found at a website known as toporama.  (You should be able to find it with a google search "toporama canada.")

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Here the legend is a bit different:

heavier brown dashed lines:  primary (established) canoe route
lighter brown dashed lines: alternate (established) canoe route
red dashed lines: portages
small blue dots: campsites
small yellow boats: commerical boat caches
light blue italics text: lake names (at least one in this sample was already on the base map ... I just tried to match the exiting layout as much as possible with my text)

portage lengths (rods): bold black for primary route; bold red for alternate route
fish species are marked the bold red letters in individual lakes.
reef/nav. hazards come already marked on the base maps as are waterfalls and rapids

This image is also a bit small when compressed for display here.  Perhaps a bit more detail can be gleaned by examining (maybe using the zoom feature on your browser):

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Again, a significant amount of "hand work" was necessary to produce this map, but when I make the final determination of what I want to do here, I should be able to produce an overlay file and automate the process to a greater degree.

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Reply #3 - Apr 18th, 2009 at 6:27pm
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Why 2 different set of maps.

I carry the GPS map only in my GPS?

The Memory Maps are printed and serves as my primary source for navigation.  Of course, I've tweeked the colors so that they taken on an appearance very much like Fisher maps (yellow land mass, blue water).

My printed maps are on 13 X 19 inch waterproof paper, which fit my map case near perfectly once folded in half.  Of course, I print on both sides of the paper to save weight and space (and to same on paper ... its a bit pricy).

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Reply #4 - Apr 19th, 2009 at 6:32pm
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DD curious about the paper source and printer....U know the methodology......
  
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Reply #5 - Apr 19th, 2009 at 7:31pm
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marlin55388 wrote on Apr 19th, 2009 at 6:32pm:
DD curious about the paper source and printer....U know the methodology......

I started out using National Geographic Adventure Paper, but I've only been able to find it up to Legal (8 1/2 X 14") size.  A very similar product is made by (You need to Login or Register to view media files and links) in sheet sizes up to 13 X 19 inch.  I found a pretty descent price for this on Amazon.  The once printed (lazer or ink jet), the ink becomes permanent (it doesn't come off even in very warm tap water submerged for 5 minutes).

The printer used is an (You need to Login or Register to view media files and links), which lists here for $299 less a $50 dollar rebate.  When I bought it, it had a $120 rebate.  (I've also seen them on Amazon for under $200.)  This printer handles stock up to 13 inches wide.  It also uses 6 different ink cartridges (about $20 each).

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Reply #6 - Apr 20th, 2009 at 3:00pm
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Kool thanks for the info! I have another question for you DD... I have and older Lowrance unit....hand held....is there add ons availble that you are aware of that would allow me to do the same map work as you with your unit....yeah I know that I could figure it on my own but you seem savy Wink Like the idea of editing/updating self printed maps.....lots of waypoints and various other info....
  
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Reply #7 - Apr 20th, 2009 at 3:18pm
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Marlin -

Sorry.  Since I purchased my first Garmin unit when the model number was "12," so I've kind of stuck with that manufacturer.  I've not spent much time evaluating units from other manufacturers.  (My last two Garmin units have had mapping capabilities.)

However, a quick check of Lowrance web sites shows that they support software (MapCreate) and it looks like they have a Topo CD for Canada.  This is more or less where I started with the Garmin products.

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Reply #8 - Apr 21st, 2009 at 7:01pm
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Very cool thanks for the info Smiley
  
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Reply #9 - Apr 24th, 2009 at 11:42pm
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d. doc: thanks for the sample map: looks like the portages on the route marked are fairly short, what I'm trying to put together is  :question..if I wanted to do this same route with a 19' Grumman and 9.9 hp motor....is that legel, legal or however ya spell it :question.  Smiley
  
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