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Newbie: plastic liner bag question (Read 4239 times)

ApostlePaul Lucky Member Offline Posts: 10 Location: Houston Joined: Jul 12^th, 2009	Newbie: plastic liner bag question Jul 12^th, 2009 at 2:02pm	Quote Print Post
	I'm making my first trip in August. Planning to put my stuff in my backpack (that I uses for backpacking). I have some individual waterproof bags. But, I'm also thinking about using a trash compacter bags as a liner. I use this when backpacking, but don't have to worry much about tying it at the top. I was wondering if there is a "best" way to tie the bag when using it as a liner on a canoe trip. I'm really excited about my first trip....4 of of heading out for 6 days in early August.


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PhantomJug Voyageur Inukshuk Offline Posts: 2855 Location: 1/2 way there Joined: Feb 12^th, 2003	Re: Newbie: plastic liner bag question Reply #1 - Jul 12^th, 2009 at 4:15pm	Quote Print Post
	Like (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links) but with a login name like that I would think you would have access to better sources than QJ.


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ApostlePaul Lucky Member Offline Posts: 10 Location: Houston Joined: Jul 12^th, 2009	Re: Newbie: plastic liner bag question Reply #2 - Jul 12^th, 2009 at 4:33pm	Quote Print Post
	PhantomJug. Thanks. As for name...you would think so....but that's another story.


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Westwood Inukshuk Offline Posts: 669 Location: Was Minnesota Now Iowa Joined: Mar 4^th, 2005	Re: Newbie: plastic liner bag question Reply #3 - Jul 12^th, 2009 at 4:51pm	Quote Print Post
	Apostle Paul, You didn't ask this question, but you said you were going to use your backpacking backpack. There is a previous thread which discusses the merits of using a backpacking pack which has an external frame. Very people who go to the Quetico or BWCA on a regualr basis use a backpack which has a frame. The major drawback of an external frame is that the pack doesn't fit well in the canoe. This is a not a trip breaker, but something you may want to consider. Westwood


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solotripper Inukshuk Offline Posts: 8105 Location: clarkston MI Joined: Mar 14^th, 2005	Re: Newbie: plastic liner bag question Reply #4 - Jul 12^th, 2009 at 9:13pm	Quote Print Post
	Some of us use a double bag system. IF you have a backpack that has a separate bottom area for sleeping pad that you can unzip to make ONE big bag, this method serves you well. People use heavy duty garbage bags, or makeshift liners but for a few bucks, I would get two of these. Either way you go, get as close to 6 Mil as you can. One inside the other, outer bag is your WEAR bag. I fold them them down by gathering them together as close to load as I can, then twisting them 180 degrees, and tucking the excess into the front or back of the load. I repeat this with the outer bag, tuck opposite of the first one. Don't worry about the length, get long one's, you can cut them down if need be. I have 4 trips on same two bags, although I had too duct tape a few rips in the outer bag from abrasion by the pack body. I agree about external frame pack being unwieldy for tripping, but I've seen in done and IF you have an internal frame pack, you should be fine (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links)


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DentonDoc Voyageur Inukshuk Offline Posts: 3468 Location: Central Texas Joined: Dec 27^th, 2003	Re: Newbie: plastic liner bag question Reply #5 - Jul 12^th, 2009 at 11:03pm	Quote Print Post
	[quote author=ApostlePaul link=1247407354/0#0 date=1247407354]I was wondering if there is a "best" way to tie the bag when using it as a liner on a canoe trip. [quote] I've done the same basic method solotripper suggests. I've used both a heavy duty twist tie (like some that a commercial laundry would use to tie together bundles of hangers) or extra-long/tick pipe cleaners to tie up the bag. The twist-tie works better and doesn't tend break as frequently, but for a shorter duration trip the pipe cleaners would be fine. You might want to consider something a bit larger than a compactor bag. I've used a heavy-mil lawn bag for this. It gives you extra length to twist the top and fold over before you tie-down. Just keep in mind that your backpack will soak up water (and extra weight) and may very well remain wet for the duration of your trip (via both rain and sitting in the canoe bilge). dd


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monjon Senior Member Offline Posts: 342 Joined: Jan 29^th, 2004	Re: Newbie: plastic liner bag question Reply #6 - Jul 13^th, 2009 at 1:03am	Quote Print Post
	I just twist the top of the plastic bag, double it over, and wrap a large thick rubber band around it.


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ApostlePaul Lucky Member Offline Posts: 10 Location: Houston Joined: Jul 12^th, 2009	Re: Newbie: plastic liner bag question Reply #7 - Jul 13^th, 2009 at 1:16am	Quote Print Post
	Thanks for the helpful advice. I'm sure this will be a great experience, with some learning curves. Wish I could justify the funds to just buy the correct type of carrier. But, I think I'll make it with what I have. It is an internal frame pack and I do have some waterproof bags for the essentials--like sleeping bag and clothes. Our food will be supplied by the outfitter in some type of container/carrier.


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Old Salt Inukshuk Offline Posts: 4871 Location: Crossville, TN Joined: Jun 17^th, 2004	Re: Newbie: plastic liner bag question Reply #8 - Jul 13^th, 2009 at 2:24am	Quote Print Post
	I just roll it up. Cinching the pack flap & straps will keep a tight seal.


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Mad_Mat Inukshuk Offline Posts: 1549 Joined: Apr 21^st, 2003	Re: Newbie: plastic liner bag question Reply #9 - Jul 13^th, 2009 at 12:09pm	Quote Print Post
	who'd a thought that there would be a dozen ways to do something so simple. Same as Monjon, I just twist the top several times, double it and rubber band it. Typically, I use at least 2 trash bags for liners, or a trash bag and lightweight drybag or packliners. I'd never trust a single layer, and my down sleeping bag is in an additional two layers. I'd think about bringing several extra trash bags, just in case the outfitters packing for your food is using only a single liner. Nothing at all wrong with using a backpack - I've used a large internal frame backpack on many trips. Your typical nylon backpack is pretty quick drying - I would normally lay the pack down so that the shoulder straps and hip-belt are "up" - that way, weven if there is some water in the bottom of your boat, the straps stay dry unless its raining.


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