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Portaging Opasquia & WCP
Sep 14th, 2009 at 2:21pm
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I understand that Supt. Doug Gilmore recently has been given responsibility for Opasquia Provincial Park now, too.  If so, congratulations!  

I'm hoping that either Supt. Doug or Asst. Supt. Claire or some other knowledgeable person will comment on the general condition & upkeep of the portages in Opasquia.  As I contemplate my plans for 2010, Opasquia seems alluring until I consider the probability that no one - save perhaps the Big Hook outpost cabins outfit OR maybe some miscellaneous trappers - is keeping up ANY of the portages in that park.

My quest for remoteness & solitude is one thing; outright masochism is quite another.  If I pay all the extra money required to fly-in & fly-out of Opasquia, would I find myself marooned with little room to paddle except, perhaps, where I might hack my way through to another lake??  Not that I don't appreciate a challenge & a workout, mind you.  Yet something tells me I could be staring at a park of rats' nest portages (on the order of what I witnessed between WCP's Wrist Lake & Jigsaw Lake in early July).  That would be bad; very BAD, and not exactly the return I'd be looking for with the extra investment required to get there.

I'll probably be heading back to one of your parks, Doug; that's how much I/we enjoyed ourselves this past summer in WCP.  It is a great paddling park!  I guess I'm just trying to get a handle on when Opasquia might also be "ready for prime-time" park paddling....

Any words to the wise would be appreciated for 2010 -2015 planning purposes.  My initial research tells me that Opasquia isn't quite ripe for the picking yet.  True??

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Re: Portaging Opasquia & WCP
Reply #1 - Nov 26th, 2009 at 12:32pm
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Information on Opasquia - first lets deal with the pronounciation -when I first spoke the word I said O-pass-quee-ah. I have since learned that it is pronounced Wop-ash-qwey-ah, OK thats lesson number 1.

Back to the question, information in Opasquia is scarce, no sorry that's not right there is tons and tons of information about that area only we don't have much of it.  It is classed as a non operating park and as such we are not given a dedicated budget to monitor activity and maintain trails regularily.  An excursion did take place a few years a go where some information was gathered, some of which included portage trails along the trip. I could work with you to get that information your way.

Going to Opasquia does require a larger investment that say dropping in to Woodland Caribou, however there are some ways to lessen the cost. One way is to take a sched flight to Sandy Lake from Red Lake and then use Sandy Lake Seaplane from there.  I am not sure about the ability to rent a canoe but I'm sure Sandy Lake Seaplane could answer that.

We have plans for a trip to Opasquia this summer and plan to confirm some of the previously collected information at that time.

If I was planning a trip I would stick to the main waterways and find out where some of the boat caches are. Usually the trails to and from boat caches are kept relatively clean.

We do have responsibility for Opasquia now and we share that reesponsibility with the people that live in and use the area. There are at least 3 First Nations that live in the area and continue to use Opasquia as their ancestors always have.  It is here where most of the information lies for Opasquia.  Land Use planning may be starting for the area outside of Opasquia soon and if so that is when the information will begin to surface. I know there is interest in making Opasquia more reachable to the canoeing public by Sandy Lake First Nation.

So thats a start on the information transfer, I apologise for the long delay in geting "to it".
  
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Re: Portaging Opasquia & WCP
Reply #2 - Nov 26th, 2009 at 2:03pm
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Doug,

I appreciate the response!

Just an hour or two ago, I found an on-line post on the myccr.com forum from a very knowledgeable mutual outfitter friend of ours.  He quoted an "all costs folded in" total of about $7700 for a party of two (2) to do a trip to Opasquia.  While my guess is that following your recommendations might shave a few bucks off that total, clearly the amount will be prohibitive for most paddlers (including me).

Where there is a will there is a way, though, and I'm sure that, over time, solutions to this access issue can be pulled together.

Meanwhile, there is PLENTY of WCP to paddle & explore!

Thanks, again -

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Reply #3 - Sep 25th, 2010 at 1:02pm
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Doug,

Did you ever do that summer trip into Opasquia?  If so, is there a new outlook regarding the development of that park?

I, for one, still have interest in visiting there before I become too old & decrepit to do so.  We wouldn't need much; just an area of that park where there might be a FEW actual portages.  We wouldn't want to become too spoiled with the easy life, you know....

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Reply #4 - Dec 15th, 2010 at 3:24am
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Jimbo- I have been part of a party of 5 that have been going to Opasquia PP the 2nd week of August for over 20 years. I have been flying in to South Lake via Big Hook Wilderness Camps. It is a remote fly-in camp known for its fabulous walleye fishing. My trip usually begins staying overnight at the Balmertown Inn Balmertown, Ontario. We take an early morning flight out of the Red Lake Airport on a 9 passenger turbo prop freight plane operated by Wayasa Airways. You fly 180 north to a large 1st Nation Indian Reservation on Sandy Lake. We then take a 25 minute float plane to one of 6 or 7 lakes of your choice. Steve and Evie Hartle and their son Nathan have owned and operated  Big Hook for many years.

The lakes in Opasquia are really a flowage and stain colored and full of good sized walleye. Large Northern Pike are present as well. I heard that Opasquia PP was open to canoeing a few years back but I haven't seen a canoeist yet. The shoelines of most of the lakes are rugged and not the best for campsites. I have found only 1 site  that we can use on South Lake to have a shorelunch and it is only average at best.

I doubt it would  cost you $7K for a trip to Opasquia. It runs us $1,159 per person for a party of 4 -5 for a 7 day/nite Saturday to Saturday trip...price includes flight to and from Red Lake, gas, motor, 14 ft boats, solar power, shower, potatoes, canned vegetables, cooking oil, ice etc. Just bring meat, sleeping bags, clothes, and fishing gear.

Steve and Nathan Hartle can be reached at 920-893-3525 BHWC@aol.com  (You need to Login or Register to view media files and links); They vacation in Florida in the winter and Nathan does several shows in the winter. I am sure they could help you out with any questions you may have and can provide you with a way to get into Opasquia at a reasonable rate.

Bottomline, I am not sure you would like to go thru lakes that have a cabin and fisherman in boats but the park is quite big and there aren't cabins on every lake. The only portage trails I have seen are where Big Hook has cached boats to be used to portage into a lightly fished lake. Like you I prefer remoteness. WCPP may be the ticket but Opasquia PP may be worth a look. The wildlife ( bear, moose, mink, otter, eagles, osprey) are plentiful.

Writing this note has got me revved up to paddle. Probably going to Brent Lake in Quetico the 2nd week of June 2011. Not sure about my entry point Lac La Croix ( Bottle or Black Robe) or Prairie Portage. Plenty of time to figure that out.

  
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Reply #5 - Dec 15th, 2010 at 2:32pm
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Sounds absolutely fabulous Wally Smiley

What depth are you fishing for the walleyes in August? Are you targeting them on mid lake reefs or is there a different pattern? Are they bunched up pretty tight or a bit more scattered?

I'll be up near there and not quite sure what to expect in August. I know in the clear lakes in the Q in august it can be a tough road to hoe especially without live bait.

Thanks Wally#13

  
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Reply #6 - Dec 15th, 2010 at 2:51pm
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MasterAngler- Despite being this far north I find most big walleye > 25in. in 15 to 25 ft of water on mid lake reefs. We have a  particularly good producing spot that has a 15 - 20 ft flat about 100 yds long in a narrows. Fish are a bit scattered but when they are there ...they are there. Windswept points and along deep weed edges are producers too. I have also tried surface troling when ciscoes rise on lake surface after sunset but have had only modest success on large size, but numbers have been good with this method.

I normally fish with Cabela glow spiner floating worm harnesses with 1/2 a nightcrawler with a 1/2 -3/4 oz slip sinker. I also use Northland Whistler propeller jigs  or Capn Red Beard jigs with a twister tail and bit of a worm or Gulp leech. I agree with you... since the live bait ban in Quetico my walleye numbers and size have diminished by 1/3. It is still very good but I know many agree with me ... including Stu Ostoff, publisher of BW Magazine and guide. Gulp is good but not as good as live bait.  Last year our group only caught  13 walleyes over 25 inches. Two years ago when there was a steady barometer all week and a descent walleye chop we hit a home run that we may never equal again: 55 walleye over 25 in. with several over 30 in. Remember, we have been fishing this lake for many years and know it well.

I really like the dark stained water up there and it produces well during daylight hours.
  
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Reply #7 - Dec 15th, 2010 at 5:16pm
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Sounds like you guys got it going on. Those are quality fish. Is there anything more fun than staying in a fish camp with some buddies and walking down to the boat in the morning? And then getting to do it all over again the next day.....and the day after that! Lotta fun Smiley

I've got a few things you might try. We used to go to lake Minnitaki and stay at a fish camp every year in August. That is up near Sioux Lookout not to awful far from Red Lake.

Anyway, while our canadian counterparts were inching along backtrolling with lindy rigs we were speed trolling and absolutely whackin the big walleyes. I'm talkin between 6 and 8lbs. At the end of the day there were people waiting at the dock to see what we had caught. I'm not talking just going quick I'm talkin throwin a big wake. Our boat would be about 3/4 wide open, throwing a big wake and sitting in the water at a 45 degree angle with our rods bent over really tight. We used deep diving bombers (shaped like long "A"s) with the big lip in the rainbow trout finish. They were pretty big. Put the bombers in your wake and watch them. When you reach the point where they want to wash out and then snap back in place for a few seconds you have the right speed. They are a searching, erratic kind of lure under high speed and don't track true. We often would not relate to any structure but rather would blast right down the middle of the lake. We typically would try and stay in 40 ft but I bet the lures were probably only down 20.

There is tremendous strain on the rods and line when you do this so make sure the drag is set very lightly. I will never forget when one of the Canadians came up to us one day back at camp and in a halting stuttering sort of way asked us if we were trolling. It was obvious disbelief. Of course our results spoke for themselves and I was always puzzled why nobody else imitated our success.

Now I don't know how that would work in stained water. Minnitaki is clear. That just occurred to me. Tongue

When those ciscos are up high have you ever run in line boards to get your lures out away from the boat? I bet a yellow bird would be light and compact enough to take. Tis a thought. I bet that motor is pushing them off to the side when they are up top.

BTW thanks for the info. Not sure what to expect up there. Smiley  
  
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Re: Portaging Opasquia & WCP
Reply #8 - Dec 15th, 2010 at 6:50pm
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Wally13,

Many thanks for the info on Opasquia!  Sounds like the park may not be all that friendly yet to canoe tripping.  The walleye fishing report does not surprise me, however.  I agree w/MT re: how much fun it can be to get such a routine going with your buddies year-after-year.

I was aware of Big Hook; I've been eyeballing their website for the past couple years but figured they catered to the cabin, boat & motor clientele.   After encountering challenging portaging/bushwhacking around some of the more remote areas of WCP last year, I'd certainly want decent reconnoissance re: crossing from lake to lake before tackling a whole park full of such adventures!  Sounds like a hammock tent (versus a conventional tent) would likely be the order of the day there.  Also, I figure to take a few pages out of Kingfisher's "pack light" book the next time I attempt such challenges.

Thanks for confirming to me, however, that Big Hook would be a good, less expensive resource to start with when I get serious about Opasquia.  The BWJ isn't interested in my writing about WCP for awhile (my 2010 "WCP trip report" & KF's pics should appear in the spring 2011 issue).  So, Opasquia seems like it could be the next "ripe" opportunity... but only if I show up as a "prepared" canoeist/bushwhacker.  I was NOT completely ready for my 2010 WCP adventure.

Again, your info is very helpful!

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Re: Portaging Opasquia & WCP
Reply #9 - Sep 21st, 2012 at 12:12am
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I have been spending sometime looking at the possible remote paddling waters. My first impression "WOW" it looks like it would not be that bad even if there were no portages. I can see some nice routes. East Lake itself provides a nice center to travel from.
  
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