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Best Solo Canoe
Feb 22nd, 2010 at 5:21pm
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Greetings all,

What is everyone's preferred Solo canoe?  I realize there will be many different answers based on personal preference, and I ask the question with fishing and travelling in mind.  Last year I took a Prism and I liked it with a kayak paddle, but not a regular one.  This bothered me because I really don't like the kayak paddle.  Is there another good solo canoe out there that works better with a regular paddle?  Perhaps one where you dont' sit right in the middle?  Or, maybe I just didn't like the regular paddle on the Prism because I had the boat loaded wrong?  I'm lost.. Help!
  
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Reply #1 - Feb 22nd, 2010 at 6:13pm
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I can motor pretty well in a Wenonah Prisim or Encounter with a double-paddle.  Make sure to get a long one, the shorter paddles make the canoe hard to handle. The Encounter has a little more room for gear. my two hundredths of a dollar.
  
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Reply #2 - Feb 22nd, 2010 at 7:21pm
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I bet your going to get a lot of opinions on this one. I'm no vet as I've only been doing this for about 10 years but I'll put my 2 cents in for what it's worth. I own a bell merlin in black gold and since it is the only solo I have ever paddled I cannot speak comparatively. What I like about the boat is it seems to be an excellent all around craft. Some might be faster, others might be better is swift whitewater etc. But if you like to fish this boat has good stability, decent speed and handles rough water very well. It can also handle a good cargo. I have had her out for 13 days at a time with no regrets.
  
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Reply #3 - Feb 22nd, 2010 at 8:54pm
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What didn't you like about using a single blade paddle?  Difficulty with boat control?  Lack of power?  Too far to reach over the gunwale?  Something else?

My only solo experience is in a Wenonah Advantage and I ended up preferring the single blade over the kayak paddle to the extent that I never pulled out the kayak paddle again after the first half-mile or so.  Yak paddles use a whole different motion and set of muscles.

My guess is you were improperly loaded if your problem was boat control or lack of power.  I loaded a bit stern-heavy with my big pack stowed aft and the lighter pack stowed forward, but as far back to center as was comfortable.  I also had my seat set just aft of center.  A backrest was also helpful for me and provided a little extra power.  Footbraces would have provided even more power.

The Advantage has a more extreme tumblehome and is a bit narrower than a Prism, so reaching wasn't a problem.  I used a bentshaft which may make a difference over a straight shaft.

Hope all that is helpful to you in some way.
  
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Reply #4 - Feb 22nd, 2010 at 9:22pm
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mastertangler wrote on Feb 22nd, 2010 at 7:21pm:
But if you like to fish this boat has good stability, decent speed and handles rough water very well. It can also handle a good cargo. I have had her out for 13 days at a time with no regrets.


MT -- did you find weight distribution made a big difference?  I have the same boat, with a whole lot less experience.  I found if the weight wasn't right, it made paddling very tough.  Maybe that's true with any solo.

Loved the Italian Pepsi commercial, by the way!

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Reply #5 - Feb 22nd, 2010 at 9:47pm
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Snow Dog,

I think the issue was lack of power for me.  That, and in the Prism you are lower in the boat and then reaching the paddle out the fattest part of it.  I couldn't get a good feel for making it track straight.  This was early in my trip and I switched to the Kayak paddle.  Eventually, I figured out that even with the kayak paddle you needed to load the canoe in balance front and back.  That made a difference and I suppose it would make a difference with a regular paddle too.  I really liked the Prism, I just don't want to commit to one until I can figure out how not to need a kayak paddle.
  
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Reply #6 - Feb 22nd, 2010 at 10:47pm
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gfy_paddler,

The Prism is definitely finicky when not loaded correctly.  Bow-heavy going downwind is definitely trouble.   Stern-heavy going upwind also presents challenges.  I found initial stability not-so-hot but, once you get going & if the vessel is loaded evenly, it handles wind & waves in exemplary fashion.  You may want to experiment with your seat position (if that is possible) & then mark the best position when level-loaded.  I can't say that I have had issues with mine when fishing.  Your comment re: preferring the double-blade with the Prism seems to run counter to prevailing preferences that I've seen expressed on QJ.  I use BOTH, preferring a 9 foot double-blade when I am trying to make time and a 54 inch bentshaft when I seek better control.  I go about 6/2", have long arms, and weigh in at 225 lbs (or so) &, with my size in mind, selected the Prism largely based on a recommendation from a guy who is MUCH taller & heavier than me (& owns & has paddled multiple solo canoes to compare to).

I think I'd experiment with seat position (including height) & level-loading before giving up on the Prism.  Good luck!

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Reply #7 - Feb 23rd, 2010 at 12:25am
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The prism is one of the straightest tracking solo boats around.  The bell magic is a similar size boat but it has more rocker.  The increased rocker makes it turn easier. So if you are switching with a single paddle you will switch more often with the magic. Most people who use both a double and a single say the double is for traveling and rough water and the single is for positioning  the canoe to cast into a tight spot or traveling on a tight twisting creek.
As Jimbo stated you need to move the weight around with the wind. You need a pack that can be moved or a slider seat.  You did not say any thing about stability so I assume you were ok with the prism.  When considering other boats understand that the heavier and taller the paddler is the more weight that is above the gunnels.  I am about 190lb 5ft 11 and the Magic is fairly stable for me.  I let a 300lb 6ft 5 man paddle it and he had a lot of trouble keeping the shiny side down.
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Reply #8 - Feb 23rd, 2010 at 2:55am
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If you go Bell check out the difference between the merlin and the magic before you commit. The magic is what Bell calls a "performance" touring boat. A bit thinner and quicker and more nimble but I bet the trade off is less fishability. A tad less stable maybe? I could be wrong but I checked into both of them and while I never paddled either before I took the plunge the merlin on paper just looked like the more stable of the two as a fishing platform. Anyway like I said I could very well be mistaken as I have not paddled anything other than my merlin in the solo arena.
  
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Reply #9 - Feb 23rd, 2010 at 4:29am
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Test drive, loaded and unloaded. I have rented/borrowed/begged for a trip before I bought. That is my cents; sense or not. I run Bell's, and am loyal and dont really care for tractor seats and I know the J and C stroke and like the louse and the frost. I have a very good friend that is a Wenonahphile, and he is knowledgeable. Think about your "trim" options and maintenance issues and storage considerations. Every hull design is a compromise, "what are you willing to compromise?" Wink
  
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