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I had the same reservations going in since I'm a tosser and a turner.  The semi mummy shape still allows me enough room to toss around.  Matter of fact, it's almost easier since the sleeping pad slipped into the pocket on the bottom of the bag keeps the bag from wrapping you up in a knot as you toss.

It's really an amazing system that can't be fully appreciated without trying it.  It's one of the few things I've bought in my life that I liked way better than I thought I would. [/quote]
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The more I considered your comments and thought about the innovative bag design the more I began to realize just how Ingenius it really is. Since the mat and bag are essentially "mated", no more sliding off your mat OR having to send out a search party to try and locate the zipper in the morning. Everything stays put. Attractive indeed! I was hooked and found that they made a 40 degree bag and almost went for it...............but then I measured my mat. The system is made for 20 inch mats and mine is 24". ( yea it's freakin heavy but even if your nicked up after a hard day a night on this and your ready to rock............well, at least make coffee)

I also use and approve of Snowdog's choice of mats. AND they make an insulated version which still packs incredibly small.
FYI for anyone interested, the Summer BWJ will have a Collective Wisdom article about tents and sleeping gear written by myself and others from this forum. Included will be my high endorsement of the Big Agnes Air Core sleeping pads and sleeping bag system.

Hey MAstergafter

YOu might want to check out that new ultralight tent by Big Agnes cuz that would offset the overall mass gain with the java pot  from Soleus. Bomber tents IMHO-the seedhouse is going strong after 60 plus days in the backcountry...many many  . Look at some of those new down filled pump up jobbies too to replace the thermarests too, if you must.

Me... I gotta weight till the old thermarests (note plural) let out their last kak (the half death defying cough) when the pop and are un patchable .

Dont forget the Outback oven and the MSR dragonfly (or maybe the Snowpeak white gas-but that is a work in progress for me) to bake that fish that took you to your backin', yeasted breads, and sweet treats-that will insure your cohorts and portage monkeys will not kill yah on those insane routes and trip long cold rains-they will love you all the more

BUgshirts, canoe trailers, portage packs, always something new and supposed better...

Then there is that Sil-nylon cooking tarp to keep the bread crusty good, and some extra Ti stakes to hold her taunt. Ti.....lord...and there is Ti cook ware too-even coffee presses! MMMMM makes me wonder about the Al canoe's future really lies with graphite kelvar composites

Gear is like lures and fishing garb, actually garb at large, always something new and toted as "improved"...use your noggin to gaft the facts

Tightlines M

marlin55388 wrote on Apr 26^th, 2010 at 3:37am:

Outback -- got it
MSR Dragonfly -- got it (twice), but I prefer my (two) MSR Simmerlites
SnowPeak -- got it (should I mention that I have maybe 60 white gas single burner stoves ... not to mention others; some alcohol stoves and a couple of propane units)
Titanium cookset -- got it (to add to about 4 other MSR cooksets ... some of which are still in original packing ... I'll not count the aluminum cooksets)
Tents -- I added a Marmot to my collection this year (I think that puts me at six, if I don't count the solo tents and hammocks)
Abyss boots -- check (they look especially nice next to the Ohdin's)
Silky BigBoy saw -- got it --this week (to add to my sven and sawvivor)

... and the list goes on!

Do you have an out-building devoted to gear storage?  If not, you've got a ways to go yet!  (Mine is even air conditioned for working in there in the summer months.)

dd

DentonDoc wrote on Apr 26^th, 2010 at 7:08am:



Why the Marmot DD? I'm sure you did your homework, just curious. I've always been a MSR man myself. I couldn't let "Big Agnes" flop in my solo MSR Zoid with it being a down bag. The Zoid has way to many miles. Something is bound to go wrong pretty soon in spite of the nickname I gave it (brick house). SOOoo, I picked up a "Hubba Hubba" 2 man last night to berth big bertha. Only 1 pound additional weight with all the features that I liked in the Zoid but with whole lots more room. Shoot, I could throw a party in there compared to my other tent.

An air conditioned out building for your stuff? How cool would that be!  I got a good sized shop I hang out in all day but it sure isn't air conditioned. Good for you!