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Reply #20 - Apr 23rd, 2011 at 5:58pm
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first of all i was flat wrong about "impossible to compare".
it appears that the eagle 245 ds is like the lowrance x4 pro in many respects.

Eagle 245 & Lowrance X4 pro:  1500W peak to peak output, 60 & 120 deg cones, 1000' max depth.
Lowrance X4: 800W output, 60 deg cone, 600' max depth.

So:  600' is good enough, 120 deg cone is nice but not necessary, 1500W is almost double 800W power output. what this translates to in battery consumption is prob most important to me. i really don't know nor can i find battery life ratings on these, so most likely it's best to take the safer route and go with the X4 (that is if someone can shed some light on battery life).

  
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Reply #21 - Apr 23rd, 2011 at 9:05pm
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Kingfisher wrote on Apr 23rd, 2011 at 11:49am:
FWIW, I currently use a couple of Eagle Cuda units (242 and 300)
for canoe tripping but seriously covet a color display model for my next locater. My only concern is the power consumption which is slightly more for the color units.

Have you converted the 242 to AA?
What's 242 battery consumption like?

  
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Reply #22 - Apr 23rd, 2011 at 10:04pm
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Check to see if every time you turn the unit on if it has the back light on while it is starting up.  I have a Eagle Fishmark 320.  The manual for it lists that it is designed to run on 10 to 15 Volts.  I question that because they are normally used in boats that have 16 Volts across the battery while they are charging and near full charge. Eagle sells a portable kit that uses 8 D cells.  I made a battery holder for 8 C cells and tested the unit at home and it appeared to work ok. I put new batteries in it and went on a canoe trip. On about day 2 it started having trouble finding the bottom and would search for a long time.  On day 3 when the unit was turned on with the back light in full battery sucking mode it would load the battery down and shut its self off.     When I got home I cut the wires to the back light and the unit would work on the batteries from the trip. I have since started using 12 batteries and found the unit works much better.  The unit can now see a split shot and a twisty tail and tell they are 2 items as they are cranked up from the bottom.  I have gotten more than 12 days use out of 12 C batteries.  This spring I have used the unit several days running on 12 AA batteries and it works well.  Although This unit is a very good unit I believe the smaller units are more suited to canoes but check the back lighting on whatever unit you are considering. If it is incandescent and is on while the unit is turning on it’s a battery killer.
  
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Reply #23 - Apr 23rd, 2011 at 10:34pm
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zski wrote on Apr 23rd, 2011 at 9:05pm:
Kingfisher wrote on Apr 23rd, 2011 at 11:49am:
FWIW, I currently use a couple of Eagle Cuda units (242 and 300)
for canoe tripping but seriously covet a color display model for my next locater. My only concern is the power consumption which is slightly more for the color units.

Have you converted the 242 to AA?
What's 242 battery consumption like?

I run an Eagle 168 (same unit as a 242 but doesn't come with the plastic caddy).

I'm a "thru the hull" shooter (which likely takes slightly more power) and I run 8-AA Lithium Batt's.  I don't have to replace them on a two-week trip, but I'd say I'm a light to medium user (don't tend to fish all day).

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Reply #24 - Apr 23rd, 2011 at 10:36pm
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zski wrote on Apr 23rd, 2011 at 9:05pm:
Kingfisher wrote on Apr 23rd, 2011 at 11:49am:
FWIW, I currently use a couple of Eagle Cuda units (242 and 300)
for canoe tripping but seriously covet a color display model for my next locater. My only concern is the power consumption which is slightly more for the color units.

Have you converted the 242 to AA?
What's 242 battery consumption like?



Both the Eagle Cuda 242 and 300 are run on 8AA lithium batteries - I converted both. One set of lithiums could get me through a trip if I conserve locater use. I take at least two sets and sometimes 3 depending on how important fishing is for each trip. Overall performance of both locaters was improved when I upgraded to lithium batteries. To conserve power do not run the locater alot over really deep water. The unit will modulate power to output just what is needed to bounce off the bottom and back to the receiver. Batteries last longer fishing in 20 feet vs 200 feet. Also do not use the backlight. And do not forget to turn the unit off when not in use. I've blown a whole set of batteries by accidently leaving the unit on overnight.
Neither the Cuda 242 or the 300 default to backlight when turned on. Whatever settings were in use when the power was turned off will be those that display when the unit is turned back on again except for backlight which is always off after start up and needs to be turned on when needed.
  
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Reply #25 - Apr 23rd, 2011 at 10:40pm
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I believe the numbers for Eagle Cuda 168, 242 and 300 refer to the number of pixels in each unit thus the 300 will yield a slightly better picture than the other two.
  
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Reply #26 - Apr 24th, 2011 at 2:56am
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When you adapt your power source to the AA configuration, I'd make sure to put a fuse in the line and pack a few extra fuses.  I decided to use a small blade fuse carrier.  I was a little concerned about carrying the barrel-shaped glass fuses.

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Reply #27 - Apr 24th, 2011 at 2:18pm
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What size amp fuses did you use DD?
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Reply #28 - Apr 24th, 2011 at 5:03pm
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Android wrote on Apr 24th, 2011 at 2:18pm:
What size amp fuses did you use DD?
Andy

5 amp.
  
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Reply #29 - Apr 24th, 2011 at 6:37pm
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although this topic (and others) are often revisited, sometimes there's a specific piece or pieces of information that are still needed to put the puzzle together for an individual application. I wouldn't say priceless because were "only" talking about <100.00 piece of electronics. BUT. having batteries die prematurely, or some circuit fry on day 2 because a fuse was absent, or ...fillintheblank... collectively makes a big difference overall. Thanks for reiterating, reminding, and adding new insight from experience, ultimately saving me time and frustration. youse guyz are alright.
  
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