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Re: spot vs. sat phone
Reply #10 - Sep 24th, 2010 at 7:29pm
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I carried a first generation SPOT during our trip last month from PP to Kawnipi and back.  It worked fine when it was out in the open (i.e. sitting on a rock).  But when I stored it in the pocket of my day pack the signal didn't go through.
  
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Reply #11 - Sep 25th, 2010 at 3:54pm
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The signal will not go through unless it has an unobstructed view of the sky.  I have used mine inside the car, on the front dash, and it has worked just fine broadcasting through the window.
  
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Reply #12 - Sep 25th, 2010 at 5:49pm
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I have been reading reviews of spot and they are really mixed. The bottom line seems to be everything is fine until you have to deal with customer service. Almost to a person they said they are rude, unreasonable and completely unhelpful. Angry

I wonder if their perspective would change if people started calling up their credit card companies and started contesting the charges. The first thing that happens is the money in question gets yanked out of the merchants account until the case is resolved. That creates all sorts of accounting problems for the merchant.

Once I picked up a pair of sunglasses in a mall and then walked outside and decided I wanted a darker pair. I went back in to exchange them and the store told me all sales were final. Option A was to get loud and throw over some of their display racks and then the police would come etc. etc..... Option B is usually much more effective.....I called the store manager who gave me the same line and then I calmly but firmly told him the first thing I was going to do was to contest the charges. He quickly gave me a refund. He would of been much better off to give me an exchange.....I took that off the table as I perceived this company was not worth doing business with.  Cool
  
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Reply #13 - Sep 26th, 2010 at 3:23am
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I think whether or not the SPOT signal is reliable is an entirely different issue than the quality of customer service from the company.
  
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Reply #14 - Sep 26th, 2010 at 9:10am
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intrepid_camper wrote on Sep 26th, 2010 at 3:23am:
I think whether or not the SPOT signal is reliable is an entirely different issue than the quality of customer service from the company.


Indeed IC. Many who were seeking customer service were not satisfied with how the product worked right from the get-go.

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Check out the customer reviews at REI. I found this more or less true for other sites as well. Mixed opinions on the results and then poor customer service if you get stuck with a lemon. Rumor has it they offer replacement insurance for $20 extra per year. Might be money well spent.

I will likely take my chances as the benefits seem to out weigh the alternatives. Hopefully I will be one that sing its praises. Time will tell.
  
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Re: spot vs. sat phone
Reply #15 - Sep 26th, 2010 at 4:33pm
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I've seen two different people use the 1st generation SPOT in the arctic. The only negative they said was they didn't know if their message was sent. I think the 2nd generation added some lights to confirm your message was sent.

We used a Sat phone for real communications, i.e. Yes we're where we thought we'd be after 16 days, coordinates are ####. Please come pick us up, weather permitting.

SPOT was more of a toy, "Hi, wish you were here".
  
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Reply #16 - Sep 26th, 2010 at 6:24pm
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I did opt for the replacement insurance on my SPOT, mostly because I was concerned that my elderly father could lose it or drop it in the ocean.
I have a first generation SPOT and after it is able to send a message it stops blinking two lights and just blinks one.  If you watch it a while you can see it send the message...the lights stay on steady for a few seconds instead of blinking.  So far it has been very reliable except that it often cannot send a message if there are trees or brush between it and the open sky.  I have solved this by checking it after a period of time and if it still hasn't sent the message I put it in a different location which usually does the trick.
I used it once to call for HELP.  I returned to Moose Lake a day early and wanted my ride to know I was ready to come home...it concerned my son Dan who was monitoring my signals, until he realized it was coming from the canoe landing and that I probably wanted a ride.  Smiley
  
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Reply #17 - Sep 27th, 2010 at 4:45pm
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Depends on where you go & what you want & how much $$$ you have.

I hear sat-phones are $10/minute on top of the purchase & set-up costs.

Personally I would be fine with SPOT for where I go and what I want to do.  I just want to inform the Mrs. that I'm OK or send out a distress signal if I'm not.  SPOT seems to hit the right median for enjoying the solitude & escape while alleviating anxiety of loved ones.
  
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Reply #18 - Sep 27th, 2010 at 5:44pm
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Preacher wrote on Sep 27th, 2010 at 4:45pm:
Personally I would be fine with SPOT for where I go and what I want to do.  I just want to inform the Mrs. that I'm OK or send out a distress signal if I'm not.  SPOT seems to hit the right median for enjoying the solitude & escape while alleviating anxiety of loved ones.

That's the reason I take one.  I'm usually out for about 2 weeks and my wife gets a bit nervous when I'm out of touch for that long.  In addition, I occasionally go solo.

I've used (a gen 1) SPOT for the past two seasons and over approximately 50 nightly transmissions, I can only remember 2 that didn't get through (and those were probably my fault because of impatience).  I used to watch the unit until I confirmed the first message was sent and then turned the unit off.  Now, I turn the unit on and let it send redundant signals (it actually sends 3 which are edited down to 1 by the SPOT service).  Before I walk away, I confirm that the OK and power lights are blinking in unison (alternate blinking means lack of a clear signal) and walk away for about a half hour. When only the power button is blinking, it has sent 3 signals.  Needless to say, I pick a spot (point, front of campsite, etc. where there is abundant clear sky (south is usually a bit better because the unit can reach more satellites ... northern only is probably the worst ... for the opposite reason).

My last trip:  100% success on messages sent.

The season before, I did use a sat phone.  I didn't care for the bulk and for a 2-week trip I also had to take along a solar charter ... another somewhat bulky item since it also contain C-sized rechargeable batteries.

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Re: spot vs. sat phone
Reply #19 - Sep 27th, 2010 at 6:23pm
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Wow, C cells have a use other than vibrators.   Cheesy

Yeah, weight & bulk being another big factor for me.
  
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