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Reply #100 - Dec 13th, 2010 at 8:46pm
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Naw, I'll pop it on the thwart so it's easy to look at. But thanks, I always appreciate your insight DD.
  
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Reply #101 - Dec 13th, 2010 at 9:37pm
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I don't know what it looks like, but would it be possible if you don't look at it head on the reading won't be accurate? Kind of like an old car we had... When going 55 it looked like about 70 from the passenger seat.
  
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Reply #102 - Dec 13th, 2010 at 10:00pm
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Maybe if I mount it off the keel line and then look at it at on an angle, preferably with my head cocked and my tongue sticking out of the corner of my mouth (drool cup in place of course), I'll be right on the money. Grin
  
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Reply #103 - Dec 13th, 2010 at 10:09pm
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Dont forget to mutter under your breath, slow down your going to fast and your heading to fur to the east Shocked
  
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Re: MT's WCPP trip
Reply #104 - Dec 14th, 2010 at 5:10am
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Why not mount it directly in front of you on the thwart? Undecided It probably has to do with the angle of perception in relation to the angle of declination... It may void the warranty if improperly installed.
  
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Reply #105 - Dec 14th, 2010 at 12:34pm
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On the thwart, directly in front of me I have a shockcord running the length of it and here is where I put my primary navigation tool, my map (enclosed in a case of course). This method has served me extremely well. Easy to re-position, easy to read, easy to yank out and biner to a portage pack on walks and you don't have to worry about the wind taking it away. That will stay.

On either end I had wanted to place the GPS (in its heavier than hoped for RAM mount) and the compass off to the other side. I am also keen to have the depth finder mounted more or less permanently. All this adds up to weight and complexity. I was looking at that scenario with an evil eye at first but then realized I don't mind the least bit carrying needed items on my belt and rather like the ease of access. "Thwart clutter" is much the same I suppose. Besides, my obsession with shaving 5 or 10 lbs from my kit is probably the wrong focus. How about dropping 20 lbs from my personage Tongue. Or perhaps changing 20lbs of "stored energy" to muscle moving mass ability. So far so good.

The depth finder is the logical thing to leave behind but since my intention is to troll around the park and more or less run a line continually when practical the depth finder would be critical in doing that effectively. The last thing I want is to be continually hung up, can't make miles that way.

I can picture the GPS, map and compass mounted on the thwart in front but what I am having some perplexity imagining is where the depth finder will go and still be easily read. Since I will be looking at it probably 95% more than the GPS it should probably have a more prominent position. Add in that the RAM mount is very versatile (I could likely mount it Underneath the thwart).

I guess I will worry about that in the spring when I can get my hands on the boat. Lot's of fun!  Smiley    
  
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Reply #106 - Dec 14th, 2010 at 2:42pm
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mastertangler wrote on Dec 14th, 2010 at 12:34pm:
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I guess I will worry about that in the spring when I can get my hands on the boat. Lot's of fun!  Smiley    


To cold down there to go outside and work on it?  Grin Only a wimpy -15 here this morning. I was expecting worse.
  
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Reply #107 - Dec 14th, 2010 at 3:26pm
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Boats in Michigan. It's gonna be in the 20's here in Florida tonight. Last year was freezing down here to.

Should I take this opportunity to playfully mock global warming?.........oppps I forgot, we are going to call it "climate change" so if it's cold or hot it's still our fault. And yea, I'm for less gunk in the air and in the water.
  
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Reply #108 - Dec 14th, 2010 at 4:57pm
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Always interesting to hear the way others handle practical, everyday, canoe issues.

Once I start paddling for the day, the map case stays INSIDE the canoe.  Like you, I mount to the thwart, but use either velcro straps or dealee-bobs.  I anchor a corner of my map case to my foot rail when portaging so it doesn't fall in front of my face when the canoe is upside down.  I'll do both corners if there are other floppy items attached to the thwart (e.g., sunglasses on a neck strap).

As far as the GPS and depth finder ... they are both attached to the foot rail, one just a little on each side of the center line.  It is not uncommon for both to stay in the boat overnight.  In this positon, they are out of the way when portaging (can't snag them) and they are below the gunwale line when the canoe is parked (unside down) overnight.  (I used a bicycle mount for the GPS and a electrical conduit clamp for the depth finder attachment.  The way I attached the conduit clamp to the depth finder allows the face to rotate fore and aft as well as port/starboard so I don't have to fight sun reflection.)

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Re: MT's WCPP trip
Reply #109 - Dec 14th, 2010 at 5:43pm
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At the risk of sounding contentious (and I despise folk who are contentious just for its own sake) I will advocate that my map viewing system is superior Wink.

Let me see if I have your situation correct. (If not please advise and I may change my views accordingly) Tied off on the corners and hanging more or less vertically?

Your eyes have to focus down where mine are more direct as the relevant info on my map is often at or above my thwart line. A subtle but important distinction IMO. Especially since I am continually looking from map to shore. Just a glance is all that is required.......not even a slight tilt of the head.

The angle of viewing can be changed with my system just by adjusting its position in relation to the shock cord. A simple shove to or fro and I can achieve any viewing angle I desire at any given moment. Keep in mind the case adds rigidity. It never actually folds over on itself.

My method is both faster and more convenient. Time to change maps? Just grab the case and re-load. Want a real close look? Again just grab it and plop it in your face. I'm always looking at the map in camp.......just grab and go. On portages it is as simple as it gets to clip my case to a d ring on my pack and off I go. Sort of nice to be able to stand around at the end of the portage and have it in your hand and up close as well. Adjustments that are needed are often noted and performed then.

Well, have I convinced you? Grin

I know we all have our methods that work for us. I was speaking to those who perhaps are not satisfied with their map set-ups as much as I was to you Mr. DD  Kiss.

I would like to see your set-up one day (Hint, Hint) Sounds interesting.
  
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