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Re: MT's WCPP trip
Reply #10 - Oct 9th, 2010 at 12:25pm
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DentonDoc wrote on Oct 9th, 2010 at 2:07am:
mastertangler wrote on Oct 9th, 2010 at 1:19am:
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If you find yourself on Upper Kilburn, you might consider taking the 1000 meter (200 rod) portage from Upper Kilburn directly east to Kilburn.  This is a relatively new portage that was cleared by the park staff a couple of years back (so it doesn't appear on most existing maps).  It would be relatively flat on the Upper Kilburn end and descent to Kilburn.  Even at 200 rods, I think it would be quicker than paddling all the way around.

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I walked all of that portage in 2009. It was blocked by a couple of downed trees on the east end which are probably cleared away by now. Otherwise it was a flat, wide easy trail.
  
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Reply #11 - Oct 10th, 2010 at 4:36pm
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Even though I have spent a significant amount of time "off trail" in my time outdoors I have never been especially knowledgable with map and compass. I seldom get lost though. Mostly because I stick to significant landmarks such as rivers, ridges etc. I have found that just by paying attention to the map in the Quetico I have seldom had to use a compass (Crooked lake being an exception).

WCP may challenge that notion however. We'll see. I detest the thought of being outclassed or in over my head (no pun intended) and have dedicated myself to becoming more knowledgable with the tools of the trade, that being map, compass and GPS. I came across this tutorial and thought it was a good start. I'm sure many of you are already familiar with this material but for those who aren't I thought I would provide the link.
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If anyone has any on-line links or print material they recommend I am certainly eager to hear about it. The simpler the better to start out with. Line upon line, precept upon precept is an excellent way to a good foundation.
  
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Reply #12 - Oct 10th, 2010 at 8:49pm
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MT,

All the tools (GPS, compass, following your map) are highly recommended in WCPP but even with all those you'll need a healthy helping of patience and, hopefully, some luck.  Finding some of those portages is a real challenge.  They're there (most of the time) but often nearly invisible.  We had three pairs of experienced eyes this last go'round and STILL got confounded frequently.  Also, as far as campsites go, ONLY trust what some other paddler has CONFIRMED actually exists.  Fully half the time the campsites shown on park supplied information did not exist.  Be prepared to clear brush & improvise campsites.

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Reply #13 - Oct 10th, 2010 at 10:13pm
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This is sounding better all the time. Smiley

The only thing I refuse to let happen is to "misplace" my gear. To that end I will be bringing extra gorp for use in establishing a trail back to where I started the portage.

Seriously though, I am particularly interested in the portages between Irregular and Eagle. Most of the route provides options and alternatives should I not like what I'm seeing (or not seeing). The exception is into Eagle. Should I be turned back it would be a day backtrack. This would  of course likely prove added incentive to slug it out if the portages are bad or for practical purposes non-existent. As a "risk/reward" sort of guy I like info....even if it is very general. I like knowing the 1 mile into Ford lake is steep and rugged. Consequently, I can envision not attempting it in wet conditions.

Ease around, stay hydrated and make good decisions. Perhaps easier said than done but that will be my motto.

 

 
  
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Reply #14 - Oct 10th, 2010 at 10:48pm
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Al -

I supposed you've read this story from canoestories.com?

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It describes the route from Irregular to Leano ... just in the opposite direction and it may be a bit further south than you'd planned.  You might also want to take a peak at the maps associated with each of the chapters.

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Reply #15 - Oct 11th, 2010 at 12:58pm
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Thanks DD,
This story had escaped me and yet it is so very relevant! What a great read. I was suspicious of the route between eagle and irregular and now with good reason. Rope to let your pack and boat down! I'll be going the other way......I may need to get a running start  Grin.
 
  
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Reply #16 - Oct 11th, 2010 at 3:01pm
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mastertangler wrote on Oct 11th, 2010 at 12:58pm:
Rope to let your pack and boat down! I'll be going the other way. 

Don't give up so quickly.  I've had to do that in Quetico (McDougal to Keats) ... and of course it had been raining

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Reply #17 - Oct 11th, 2010 at 3:44pm
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Who said anything about giving up? Nay way hosea'. I'll be coming from the opposite direction so instead of coming down I'll be going up.

Instead of a running start I have since thought of using a giant rubber band made from a semi truck tire and making a giant slingshot to gain the top. I just need to get the trajectory right......... Cheesy
  
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Re: MT's WCPP trip
Reply #18 - Oct 12th, 2010 at 5:03pm
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mastertangler wrote on Oct 11th, 2010 at 12:58pm:
Thanks DD,
This story had escaped me and yet it is so very relevant! What a great read. I was suspicious of the route between eagle and irregular and now with good reason. Rope to let your pack and boat down! I'll be going the other way......I may need to get a running start  Grin.
 

Actually, I interpreted "I'll be going the other way" to mean that you'd decided to exit Irregular via Beamish rather than Eagle.

mastertangler wrote on Oct 11th, 2010 at 3:44pm:
Who said anything about giving up? Nay way hosea'. I'll be coming from the opposite direction so instead of coming down I'll be going up.

Instead of a running start I have since thought of using a giant rubber band made from a semi truck tire and making a giant slingshot to gain the top. I just need to get the trajectory right......... Cheesy

Don't know if I'd change my route to go UPHILL rather than downhill.  At least you have gravity working with you to lower your gear!  But your mileage may vary.  Grin

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Re: MT's WCPP trip
Reply #19 - Oct 12th, 2010 at 5:37pm
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It did sound like I was giving the Monty Phythons call for retreat ("RUN AWAY, RUN AWAY"!!). But such was not the case. I must admit to a bit of a smile when I read about the route. Tough but doable. It's "there" in other words.

After a dream I had last night I have reconsidered the slingshot idea.

Instead I am figuring I could tie a length of rope to a small boulder, toss the boulder up the hill, and pull myself to it. Repeat the process until I am to the top Smiley.
  
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