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Reply #20 - Oct 19th, 2010 at 3:06am
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Sounds like a pretty good plan to me but I would contact Jim Hegyi and see what he would advise on the Irr. to Eagle route. I took a little walk on the first 500 out of Irr. and was really glad I was not portaging it.

The paddle up the Talon and through Boomerang with be the payoff for finding your way to Eagle. The picture of my GPS mounting system at the start of the Creeks and Trails story on canoestories.com is on the way to the 375 portage to Dragon. As I recall those little ponds on the route are not as big as they appear on the map. Note how there are two ways to exit the pond preceding the portage. This is one of those places where a GPS's Topo map will let you know that you are in the right pond and the little crease in the grass is the stream you want to take.
  
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Reply #21 - Oct 19th, 2010 at 9:38am
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Thanks Martin,
I will indeed contact Jim Heygi and try and glean what info I can.

I wish you had said you were "glad" that you were not portaging that stretch instead of "REALLY glad"  Grin. I'll take a look & see if it will go for me. You have my curiosity up now.

I will also be certain to take note of your description of the "crease in the grass" on my map. Thanks for the heads up.  Smiley

I am thinking of taking a side trip to Job lake. An exploratory venture to see if it is worth incorporating into a base camp/NE loop future trip. I know I should focus on whats on my plate but I start looking at the map and I can't help myself......I suspect you know the feeling.

It looks to be a fairly clean run from Barclay, say about 3/4 day with stable weather :question. Have you been to Job?  

  
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Reply #22 - Oct 20th, 2010 at 2:19am
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I have not been further than Musclow but Bill Fulton makes a few comments in a canoestories journal about Job to Musclow.
  
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Reply #23 - Oct 21st, 2010 at 1:31pm
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on the Irr. to Eagle route. I took a little walk on the first 500 out of Irr. and was really glad I was not portaging it.


Care to elaborate Martin? 

When a man that has been all over that country says he's really glad not to traverse a trail I suppose it should get my attention.   


  
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Reply #24 - Oct 21st, 2010 at 2:59pm
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Seemed pretty clear to me. I don't think much stops Marten...
  
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Reply #25 - Oct 21st, 2010 at 3:36pm
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That's what I was afraid of.  Grin

Nice to know how "steep is steep" or "how deep you sink".

I guess I'll find out when I get there. (Lord willing of course, as who knows what a day will bring :question)......my intention though is to get across.
  
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Reply #26 - Oct 21st, 2010 at 3:44pm
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Wear your brightly colored PFD, as mom said, to make it easier to find the remains... Grin
  
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Reply #27 - Oct 21st, 2010 at 9:23pm
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I have not been further than Musclow but Bill Fulton makes a few comments in a canoestories journal about Job to Musclow.


Interesting story. It took them a day to get to musclow from Job. The windy creeks always take longer than you think. For some reason I want to go there and did so from the first moment I seen it on the map.

Barclay to Job in 1 day seems doable to me. If not I would have to reconsider going. What do you think Marten, with an early start would you like your chances of getting there in a reasonable time?
  
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Reply #28 - Oct 23rd, 2010 at 3:37pm
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AHH, the memories of great days in WCPP. As you are aware the weather up on those big waters is the limiting factor. I agree with the draw those waters have on a person when drooling over the maps in the off season. I had just the right winds on my foray into Musclow. An early start on Dunstan and tailwinds all the way to the top of Musclow. A quick supper and then an evening paddle back down those ominous waves of the big lake. On those big waters the kilometers can fly by but the wind can mess with your dreams.

Now for my thoughts on the Irregular to Eagle route. I walked some rough country on the 500 meter exiting Irr. and then came to a bog of stunted Spruce. The trail had seen no use to compress the deep moss and had numerous small trees fallen across it. The next day I exited Irr. on the 825 to the east. It was a hard portage and my notes say it was not as bad as the 500. Canoestories has many stories from some guys that do most of their WCPP entries from the south. I do not remember them ever writing about going to Irregular but figure they have or knew not to.
  
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Reply #29 - Oct 24th, 2010 at 11:48am
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Thank you Marten. I honestly can't explain how, but for some reason I had a gut feeling the stretch from Irregular to Eagle was going to be of particular difficulty. Heygi's mention of rope work and now your description of a "stunted spruce bog" has served to heighten my anticipation level. I am hoping that it will not be excessively hot or wet on that day.

Now please bear with me as the questions I am going to ask are likely to be patently obvious for anyone with minimal experience using maps and GPS in conjunction.

I have read in one of your accounts (superb BTW, very enjoyable) where you described entering the waypoints to the portages ahead of time into the GPS. Am I correct in assuming that you use the UTM grid on the maps to arrive at the numbers? If so, what method did you use to accurately divide the "tenths" inside a kilometer "box" that the grid makes. Is there a mathematical tool that you can purchase or devise? Or did you estimate?

Thank you for educating me. Maybe I can carry a few loads across for you someday.  Wink  

  
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