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Re: MT's WCPP trip
Reply #60 - Dec 4th, 2010 at 6:56pm
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No batteries required. Some are backlit though for night travel.
OS looks like the fish I catch you can just use for bait.  Wink

DB your navigation style is mine exactly. Or should I say usually. This trip I would like to employ a compass and follow a bearing. Learn a new skill where it's not crucial that I be without error. With my usual map reading and occasional GPS usage as a backup I want to get a "feel" for following a route by using a compass bearing.

I hadn't thought about it spinning as per the cheap clip ons I used to use. We'll see, this is a kayakers compass and other boaters use a compass so I suspect the dag-gone thing better work. (Or else my boys will meet with theirs.......sometimes things gets messy Angry )

It is removable but I have no intention of removing it and will take steps to insure that it doesn't want to find a new home without me. I will have a separate compass (probably a silva ranger) to keep on me. And of course a trail of gorp left behind to help me find my way back to the boat.  

  
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Reply #61 - Dec 4th, 2010 at 10:01pm
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The mounted kayak compass I was considering has been discontinued and replaced with these from the same company.

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More or less the same except it is a bit trimmer and has better styling. Plus it is black instead of white and will match my boat better. Roll Eyes I'll give it a go and let you know how I like it. I might have to do some machining and make an adapter plate so it rides primarily in the cockpit area instead of overhanging into the cargo area where it might get pulled off....bolts or no bolts.
  
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Reply #62 - Dec 5th, 2010 at 7:31pm
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Wow, that was fast. Just got my booklet UTM; using your GPS with the UTM map coordinate system booklet.

handy little grid tool was included but unfortunately it is for 1;24,000 scale.
I will order the right one.

I am liking getting the same info from several differing sources. They all intersect and it is helping. Yes, I know it is sort of basic but you know what they say about old dogs. Anyway, this is a cool company if your into maps and such.
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Reply #63 - Dec 6th, 2010 at 12:09am
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Master Angler,
Been reading all under WCPP here today.  I did a six day solo from Leano and looped North and West to Mexican Hat, to Nutria and then South down to Paull and Back to Leano.  I have BAD KNEE two surguries for Minisucus and NO ACL on Right Leg.  I am 5' 9" and am almost 54 years old and weigh 220 (overweight)  I took a 50 pound pack gear and such, a 20 lb pack (food with two bear vaults in it) a thwart bag 3 lbs and the canoe, paddles etc.  I double portaged everything and sometimes triple portaged the short stuff.  I took the topo maps, the park map (which I acutally blew up my route at office max to twice the size of original) and compass and Garmin 400 GPS Topo.  This was my first solo ever, and with patience, all will be well.  Take it at YOUR pace and watch your steps and all will be fine.
Denton Doc and Jimbo and Martin all helped me with various aspects and hats off to those fella's.
I did get a new solo canoe a couple weeks ago a Bell RockStar in Kevlight.  Can't wait to try it out on a true solo.  Took it to the lake when it was 29 degrees out just had to try it out before I put it into hibernation.  Blessings on your planning and trip and health.
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Reply #64 - Dec 6th, 2010 at 3:26pm
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MT,

I have a Kayak compass that I used on a few trips. Mine came with a bungee strap/hook rig so you could mount with the using the deck rigging found on most kayaks.

Since the canoe doesn't have that option, I did a little out of the box rigging and just secured it across my day pack and propped the day pack against my portage packs.

I checked the heading against my Brunton Orienteering compass to make sure nothing in packs was affecting the kayak compass.

 I liked it a lot. I didn't see it bobbing around, it's dampened and obviously your just occasionally checking it and lining  up on a distant point to reach and re-orient yourself.

On big plus in my book, is that unlike a hand held compass or GPS, you don't have to stop paddling to check your course.

Depending on conditions, especially solo, stopping forward momentum can be a real bad thing Grin

PS, Good luck on your medical problem. Getting the extra weight off will serve you well, whatever choice you make.
  
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Reply #65 - Dec 6th, 2010 at 6:15pm
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SunCatcher wrote on Dec 6th, 2010 at 12:09am:
Master Angler,
Been reading all under WCPP here today.  I did a six day solo from Leano and looped North and West to Mexican Hat, to Nutria and then South down to Paull and Back to Leano.  I have BAD KNEE two surguries for Minisucus and NO ACL on Right Leg.  I am 5' 9" and am almost 54 years old and weigh 220 (overweight)  I took a 50 pound pack gear and such, a 20 lb pack (food with two bear vaults in it) a thwart bag 3 lbs and the canoe, paddles etc.  I double portaged everything and sometimes triple portaged the short stuff.  I took the topo maps, the park map (which I acutally blew up my route at office max to twice the size of original) and compass and Garmin 400 GPS Topo.  This was my first solo ever, and with patience, all will be well.  Take it at YOUR pace and watch your steps and all will be fine.
Denton Doc and Jimbo and Martin all helped me with various aspects and hats off to those fella's.
I did get a new solo canoe a couple weeks ago a Bell RockStar in Kevlight.  Can't wait to try it out on a true solo.  Took it to the lake when it was 29 degrees out just had to try it out before I put it into hibernation.  Blessings on your planning and trip and health.
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Whoa Suncatcher..... 2 tears and no ACL! Sounds like you got around all right though. This bad knee thing is a bit more common than I realized. I upgraded my insurance with the expectation of getting it fixed. Now I'm not so sure. I had expected a greater chance of success with my major concern being complications. I can bike 5 miles per day for weeks with no problem but if I run or do jumping jacks or stretch I'm in trouble. Does fine on a stepper as well.

Since I'll be solo I don't have much choice than to go at my own pace Wink.

The rock star looks to be a winner. Just checked it out. I'm a Bell man anyway.

Yea DD, Jimbo, Martin and the rest on this site are swell. I count myself lucky the day I took more than 5 minutes here. I am, however, going broke. Everyone keeps posting good gear and new places to go which require new stuff (GPS etc) and I am sooooo weak! Whenever I get a new rod/reel or a new piece of camping equipment I always tell my "better than I deserve" wife something along these lines........."well, that about does it, I think I have everything". She just rolls her eyes, has an incredulous smile, shakes her head and walks away Roll Eyes.
  
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Reply #66 - Dec 7th, 2010 at 2:44am
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Reply #67 - Dec 7th, 2010 at 4:08am
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mastertangler wrote on Dec 6th, 2010 at 6:15pm:
SunCatcher wrote on Dec 6th, 2010 at 12:09am:
Master Angler,
Been reading all under WCPP here today.  I did a six day solo from Leano and looped North and West to Mexican Hat, to Nutria and then South down to Paull and Back to Leano.  I have BAD KNEE two surguries for Minisucus and NO ACL on Right Leg.  I am 5' 9" and am almost 54 years old and weigh 220 (overweight)  I took a 50 pound pack gear and such, a 20 lb pack (food with two bear vaults in it) a thwart bag 3 lbs and the canoe, paddles etc.  I double portaged everything and sometimes triple portaged the short stuff.  I took the topo maps, the park map (which I acutally blew up my route at office max to twice the size of original) and compass and Garmin 400 GPS Topo.  This was my first solo ever, and with patience, all will be well.  Take it at YOUR pace and watch your steps and all will be fine.
Denton Doc and Jimbo and Martin all helped me with various aspects and hats off to those fella's.
I did get a new solo canoe a couple weeks ago a Bell RockStar in Kevlight.  Can't wait to try it out on a true solo.  Took it to the lake when it was 29 degrees out just had to try it out before I put it into hibernation.  Blessings on your planning and trip and health.
SunCatcher
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Whoa Suncatcher..... 2 tears and no ACL! Sounds like you got around all right though. This bad knee thing is a bit more common than I realized. I upgraded my insurance with the expectation of getting it fixed. Now I'm not so sure. I had expected a greater chance of success with my major concern being complications. I can bike 5 miles per day for weeks with no problem but if I run or do jumping jacks or stretch I'm in trouble. Does fine on a stepper as well.

Since I'll be solo I don't have much choice than to go at my own pace Wink.

The rock star looks to be a winner. Just checked it out. I'm a Bell man anyway.

Yea DD, Jimbo, Martin and the rest on this site are swell. I count myself lucky the day I took more than 5 minutes here. I am, however, going broke. Everyone keeps posting good gear and new places to go which require new stuff (GPS etc) and I am sooooo weak! Whenever I get a new rod/reel or a new piece of camping equipment I always tell my "better than I deserve" wife something along these lines........."well, that about does it, I think I have everything". She just rolls her eyes, has an incredulous smile, shakes her head and walks away Roll Eyes.


MT,
I cannot run, at all!  I cycle on a real bike to get ready and for cardio and stamina.  The month or 45 days before I begin a walking regiment.
Ussually a couple mile a day or every other day fairly fast paced but not running.  I also take a knee support not a brace but a neoprene type support.  I did not have to use it last time, but could if needed.  Also ADVIL!!  I have not had an ACL on right leg that I know of since 1997 last time they scoped my knee to clean that up, but did not do ACL surgery.(should have done it then)  but now I won't as have got along this long without.  My words of wisdom are don't over do it or go to fast, enjoy your route and "smell the roses"  I over did it on the trip up 14 hours from here just to Red Lake, then started out tired and pushed myself to hard.  Then wasn't sure how far I could go, since it was my first solo and over did it the first couple days.  This led to wearing my butt out to fast.  I did do a layover day and recouped.  So what I learned is slow down to the pace that is good for you and enjoy life.
I also have a aversion to getting lighter gear more than anything.
I would like to get big pack down to 40-45 pounds and food down to 15-18 instead of 20, and a lighter canoe will also help.  I think I now have everything down to a manageable weight and will be "street smarter" on the next trip.  The best education seems to be living it.
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Reply #68 - Dec 7th, 2010 at 2:21pm
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Man I'm with you Suncatcher,
I'm actually starting NOW to get ready for my August trip and have been doing fine. My wife was saying something or other about "big strong arms" the other day in church Grin Roll Eyes. That comment got her a free dinner Wink (yea I know I'm getting played like a fiddle).  Now if I can just stop shoveling the groceries in and stuffing my face I should be fine.

I too have been thinking of going lighter. I have evaluated almost every piece of gear I own. Of course one has to decide durability as well as weight. One big change on this trip will be freeze dried food for dinner. I have 4 #10 tins of Mountain house. I will eat them one at a time and will HOPEFULLY add fish with each dinner meal. Two of the selections I can boil chunks of fish and mix them right into the meal. Each Tin weighs about 1lb. Thats good right? 21 day trip and dinners are coming in at 4lbs plus maybe some oil and a little breading. The other advantage is I don't have to worry about some bruin sneaking off with my grub. I have had them hit the freeze dried stuff before and they don't like it......they love snickers bars and oatmeal w/brown sugar and raisins though Cheesy. Anyway, it might be an option for you to consider.

Your advice to ease up a tad is probably one I should take to heart. I have noticed on long trips there is a certain amount of drive to get a good portion of the route behind you. Plus I like to paddle near shore so that adds to my distance. I get bored way out on the water and instead like the feeling of the land slipping past plus there is so much more to see both on land and in the water. The plan is to get up very early and be on the water right as the sun is coming up and ease around until a couple of hours before dark. Rinse and repeat Smiley.

Have you tried Alleve? Stuff works wonders for me. Amazing really. If I've had a tough day I'll take one before bed. A couple of times I've taken two and have awoke in the night both times with unbelievable pain in my injured knee. Not sure what that's about.

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Reply #69 - Dec 7th, 2010 at 5:29pm
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One thing I've discovered is that like drinking even when your not thirsty keeps you properly hydrated, snacking while you paddle keeps your blood sugar up and along with staying hydrated, keeps you physically and mentally alert, very important when your solo.

I keep a zip-lock bag full of trail mix, heavy on the dried fruits and nuts.
Dried fruit gives you that slow release of natural sugar that keeps your blood sugar from spiking and then crashing. I nibble often as I paddle and while portaging.

Hitting the water early, and getting the majority of your miles in early before the wind picks up will go along way toward having a good days paddle without burning yourself out. I'm not shy about taking a quick cat nap at lunch after a brisk morning paddle, does wonders for your energy level.

Unless your paddling to stay in shape, the first few days will be a strain on you, fit or not. Taking a layover day before you burn yourself out or injure yourself pressing to hard is a prudent idea.

No-one is counting how many trips it takes to cross a portage or how much you can carry. The idea is to have fun, enjoy your trip and challenge yourself enough to keep it interesting without doing something stupid Wink
  
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